is the GLH a shelby?

[Oni Snake]

1985 Omni GLH, carbed.

Is this car considered a shelby

[87DANCEonYOU]

Its not a numbered car... but technically it is considered a shelby because it was his first project with Chrysler.

[ScottD]

It has the same engine as the 83 1/2 Shelby Charger. It doesn't say Shelby on it, but it is definitely Shelby inspired.

[sdac_guy]

It is considered to be inspired by Shelby. The California Chrysler Shelby Performance Center, which opened in the early 80's in Sante Fe Springs CA, was responsible for the concept, just was it was for the 1983 1/2 Shelby Charger.

The Shelby models that have numbered dash plaques were modified by Shelby at the Shelby plant which was opened in late 1985 in Whittier CA. The first model produced at Whittier was the 1986 GLHS.

Barry

[Oni Snake]

thats cool, good to know.

That makes this buy all that much sweeter.

[Marcus86GLHS]

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Originally Posted by Oni Snake 1985 Omni GLH, carbed. Is this car considered a shelby

no.

good car, but not "a Shelby".

[87DANCEonYOU]

Marcus its a shelby...its just not a shelby numbered car Shelby Designed it,named it,and advertised it....so its a shelby....now of course something like your car would be worth more cuz it has all of the above but it was "produced" by shelby instead of chrysler......im at work at the moment and bored so im rambleing on so i hope i made some sense..

[sy2206]

I agree with Marcus on this one.

A GLH/GLHT is not a Shelby car. It is a Shelby inspired Dodge car.

[87DANCEonYOU]

Well, when you say shelby "inspired" the car. What exactly would inspired mean?? Is a mustang cobra a shelby? Yes. Is a Cobra a shelby? Yes. If inspired means designed the look,specs,and name of the car... what else could he of done?? He could add a S on to GLH and put a number on it...then that would make it a shelby?? I see where you guys are getting at....The only thing that makes a glhs different is that the glhs were made in HIS factory and are numbered. In return the value goes up... I guess you can look at it both ways...

[Una]

Put it this way.. The Shelby Charger.. It SAYS Shelby... You can't get around the fact that it's a Shelby.. The main problem the GLH has is that it never said Shelby anywhere on the car.. But it's as much a Shelby as a non number Shelby Charger is..

[sdac_guy]

We say "inspired" because Shelby WAS responsible for the car going into production. Back in 1982 there were NO plans for Shelby to modify any cars. His design studios first came up with the Shelby Charger which was introduced as a 1983 1/2 model.

The second concept car Shelby showed to the Chrysler brass was a 4 door Omni with the 110hp HO motor from the Shelby Charger in it. It wowed the Chryser management and they introduced the 1984 GLH late in the model year. For the 1985 model year Shelby talked Chrysler into offering the turbo motor in both the Shelby Charger and the GLH, creating the GLH Turbo. This was ALL Shelby's doing.

In 1986 when Shelby started building the GLHS, they started with the GLH Turbo shipped to Shelby's plant straight from the Belvedere assembly line.

While the GLH may not display the Shelby name, nor have the pedigree of the numbered Whittier models, the influence that Carroll Shelby had in the design and production of the GLH cars cannot be denied in any way.

That is what we mean by "insprired by Shelby".

Barry

[87DANCEonYOU]

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Originally Posted by Una Put it this way.. The Shelby Charger.. It SAYS Shelby... You can't get around the fact that it's a Shelby.. The main problem the GLH has is that it never said Shelby anywhere on the car.. But it's as much a Shelby as a non number Shelby Charger is..

Thats basically what im saying....


And Barry couldnt of put it much better then that. Barry thats what I mean by Inspired but some people are confusing the glh being "inspired" as not being a true shelby car....

[Marcus86GLHS]

ok, i admit i got it wrong, the glh is a shelby. thanks for the extra info guys.

i was basing my original opinion on what the car's Title says for "MAKE", my title says "SLBY" like i have seen on a lot of other Whittier cars, and, the original window sticker says: ASSEMBLY POINT: WHITTIER, CA

question: is a Shadow ES turbo a shelby? what about a Chrysler Laser turbo?

[sdac_guy]

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ok, i admit i got it wrong, the glh is a shelby.

Well that is NOT what I said or what others said. I am not saying all are Shelby's. What I am saying is there are essentially 3 classes of Shelby's. Those manufactured by Shelby, those inspired by Shelby, and those influenced by Shelby.

There is a huge difference between inspired or influenced by Shelby and manufactured by Shelby. Both in original sticker price and in collector value (whether perceived value, or actual value).

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i was basing my original opinion on what the car's Title says for "MAKE", my title says "SLBY" like i have seen on a lot of other Whittier cars, and, the original window sticker says: ASSEMBLY POINT: WHITTIER, CA

Actually you don't need the title or window sticker as proof. All the Whittier modified Shelby's have the sticker on the driver's door which has the VIN and other info, it also says on it, "Manufacturer: Shelby Automobiles, Whittier California".

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question: is a Shadow ES turbo a shelby? what about a Chrysler Laser turbo?

Absolutley not. They were completely Chrysler Corp designed, engineered, and produced.

To some extent Marcus, it seems you are saying that the Shelby models start and end with what came out of the Whittier plant. But that attitude denies all the work Shelby's team did for 4 years previously at the Chrysler Shelby Performance Center in Sante Fe Springs.

The reasons given for the GLH & GLH Turbo was Carroll's direct involvement in getting those cars produced. Not only were they originally conceived at the Shelby Performance Center, but it has been said by those close to Carroll back then, that Carroll shipped the prototype GLH Turbo to Detroit so he could take Chrysler exec's for a ride. Up till then they claimed the turbo motor made way too much power for such a small car, and balked at making the car. Fortunately for us, Carroll prevailed!!

Other Dodge Shelby models, such as the Daytona Shelby, and Lancer Shelby were certainly influenced by Carroll's involvement with Chrysler Corp, but exactly how much input Carroll had into the design and production of them is not well documented.

Barry

[Marcus86GLHS]

BARRY thanks good info.....i like the distinctions you pointed out:
-manufactured by,
-inspired by,
-influenced by,

works for me.

BARRY, what is the complete list of cars from Mopar that at a minimum fit one of the distinctions you mentioned, so far we have:

-daytona shelby
-shelby charger
-glh and glht
-csx and cxst
-shelby lancer
-glhs

is that it?