Should i buy this 87 GLHS

[Skyroof]

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Originally Posted by ljbprrfmof Call me LJ. i have a CSX-T.

Well written and well read. I used to buy cars hoping they would be worth something someday. But something would always happen and I would have to sell at a loss. So I have given up on speculating and just buy what I like. My approach now is that it is only worth something when/if I sell it.

Though I thought the asking price was a bit high, but I also voted "buy it". So long as cancer had not claimed the body/frame, it sounded like a pretty worthwhile project.

Maybe my thoughts about Chrysler diluting the Shelby name won't come true. Since gas is just a few cents below $4/gallon around here, our cars may be heading towards collectibility simply because nobody willl be able to afford to drive classic V-8 muscle.

[itsbudda]

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Originally Posted by moparfwdsleeper Take care of them? You have a solid history of trying to sell them or parts off them. 89 CSX VNT; SOLD, 87 Lancer; Inop, 87 CSX; Parting out, what was the 4th an 87 GLHS; Inop... What I find more hilarious about your "take care of them" post is that you sold the 89 cause you couldnt afford to take care of it, but shortly after it was gone you had an 87 CSX and want to part it out. Word of advise, STOP BUYING THESE CARS! You are in them for the money, that is why you think we are cheap(it hurts your profit). You wont keep a SD or TD long enough to do anything worth wild to it, other then break them and let them sit at a buddies house. If you want to bash us, be ready to take it back. Im sick and tired of your view on us. So hopefully you like mine, on you when you post shit like this Speaking of my $750 87 CSXs(Anyone else have one other then me?) My 87 CSX was worth much more then $750, that is why I DID NOT talk him down from his asking price of $750. He got what he wanted for the car, knowing what the car was himself(infact I even said to him, we both know that its worth more so im not going to waste time throwing you offers on an already low price). Keep bashing this community and you wont be here much longer.

Well said. Makes me feel bad that I sold 2 cars. Things didn't work out though. There's a difference between profit motive and a run of bad luck. I got badgered into selling that daytona. And I lost my job so the 94 vert had to go. But i'm not here to plead my case.

As for the collectablilty, I agree with LJ. This is a sport compact generation. Unfortunately, too many sport compact enthusiasts tend to drive the san francisco treat instead of eating it. But maybe Utah_Pure has a point with these being fad cars and not real shelbys. But not much of one, as it's not people pushing prices down that make them a fad. Its just stupid movies like the fast and the furious and other stereotypical import flicks that make the sport compact world in total nothing but a fad. It's pop culture that has put these real performers in the same light as honda civics.

As 4 bangers, these cars are mixed in with the import scene, but there's one big problem, and it's red, white and blue. Thats why old turbo mazdas are going for so much more then TDs.

Personally i don't think it's the "econobox platform" that doomed these car's reps (pony car anybody? remember the barracuda and the mustang started as an econobox with performance options) I think it's the narrowmindedness of the whole sport compact scene that only see our cars as just a dodge shadow, or just a lebaron, or "what the **** is a dodge daytona??"

My name's Jason, I have a chrysler lebaron, and i proudly plan to dump at least $6000 into my car

[utah_pure]

Whatever clayton nice threat...very mature and who is bashing? u only know what I post here not the whole story so if you dont like what I say keep ur mouth shut, I dont buy these to profit I find them and try and save them. The truth hurts, and some here are just mad cause I find these cars more than others do... And they are my cars I can do what I want with them just like you say to me right? so how is that being hypocritical? I think its the other way around. But here are some facts:
The 87 GLHS had a tired motor and I tried to hold onto it as long as I could, my close friend made me a decent offer that I couldnt pass up with the promise I could buy it back for what he gave me so win win.
The 87 SL was hammered when I bought it and I managed to get it to last a bit longer then someone broke into it and stole a bunch of the shelby stuff on it and them someone backed into it at an apartment complex(Nothing I could do about that) so it got sold...
the 89 CSX was bought to save it from being used as a dirt track race car and I got it running and driving just fine I sold it to save another CSX and also cuz it got broke into along with the lancer and I didnt want some lowlife td thief damaging my car so yeah I sold it for real cheap I broke even on it trying to be a good guy and help another TD guy out so again your comment about me being in this for profit is proven wrong again and without any merit.
The 87 CSX I still have.. and yeah I thought about parting it.. how many of you have felt the same about your cars? so dont give me that speech like you never have or criticize me when I think about it. Im allowed to change my mind... and wasnt it you clayton that offered some very low prices on my car or my parts? And aint you trying to sell your GLH too for some reason? hmmmm Im confused by this Clayton is your car/'s not running or inop too or what?
Pot calling kettle black aint it?And I regret selling some of them believe me but I have a family to think about and sometimes that takes priority over my car. And for you to say I cant afford these cars is just silly obviously if I find them and buy them I can afford them right? but I find it funny that you guys are so quick to judge my actions and talk trash because I have said something you dont agree with? isnt that the very defenition of childish?
And I never insulted anyone elses car I simply said mine was in better shape cuz it was but yet some of you here was telling me it wasnt why? probably so I would sell it to one of you for practically nothing... Yeah thats what I thought

And if I was trying to profit off these I wouldnt be selling them for less than I paid for them or just to break even would I?
The only car I made money on was the 90 Shadow and thats cuz it was worth what I sold it for I just got it for a better deal cuz I knew the guy... oh well
Anyways there is my response so now maybe some people can have their facts straight. And yeah if I dish it I can take it if Im doing something wrong but to be honest no one here can honestly say I have done anything different than anyone else here except that I have a habit of finding these cars more than most others do... I honestly thinks there is some jeolousy there...

[Skyroof]

Gentlemen. Can we start to move on from these personal differences and get back to the cars? The original post on this topic started as whether a restorable GLHS Charger was worth the asking price and progressed into speculating the possibilities of our Shelbys as future collector vehicles. This last topic turn would be best addressed off the Forum. Thanks.

[utah_pure]

I agree and thats what I tried to say was that I feel they very much are worth that, And from there I got attacked and as a few people put it Tyler and clayton ripped my ass, Yeah real mature and positive... And Im the one that was wrong? I think its just cuz some people want to keep them cheap so they can get them easier.

All the Shelby Cars will be worth something someday cuz they are legitimate Shelby Built cars...

[itsbudda]

everyone totally ignored my point lol.

[utah_pure]

Isn't that pretty common tho?

[RGHoskins]

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Originally Posted by utah_pure ANd this is why these cars are considered nothing moe than a fad of the 80['s and not real shelby['s or get any respect. Its cause the so called enthusiasts that do like the cars and know what they are are too damn cheap to pay a fair price for them. Quit nitpicking and being cheap. its worth 1500 easy and just cause some of us get them for cheap dont mean thats all they are worth. Why ois a 87 csx only worth 750 when the same year turbo rx7 or camaro is worth triple that in similair shape? And this is coming from someone who has bought 4 numbered cars for a grand total of3 grand, and all except one ran and drove great for a while, one was modded 2... I think I got a great deal and it was cuz the people knew I know what these are and would try to take care of them and so they gave a better deal, but go ask if the people here who got them for a great deal will let them go for the price they paid for it? Hell no they will say, Its worth alot more when they have them.. Ironic If I cant afford something I want but I feel maybe I can still get it, I say flat out I cant afford what you want but here is what i can give and sometimes it works sometimes it dont. But its time 2 stop being cheap and cheapening these cars out and let them be what they are really worth. /Rant off

So in other words, because everyone is telling him that he could get a much better car for that price, we're the reason these cars aren't taking off? Bullshit. You buy it for 1500 if you think it's such a great deal. But you damn well better restore it cause if you pay that for A GLHS that needs everything you're gonna have it for awhile...

[utah_pure]

Sorry but the facts trump personal opinion, Regardless of how it may make you look at yourself or others.

There is a reason some cars are worth more than others and it isn't always the type of car. Its called market value... if a car thats worth 4500 in low/average book value(nada of a 87 GLHS) that means it needs some work and is far from perfect. Thats what it should be worth right?
But here RGH let me point something out that you clearly missed in your vitriolic response..... MOST TD GUYS ARE 2 CHEAP TO PAY 4500 FOR MOST ANY TD LET ALONE A NUMBERED SHELBY INCLUDING ME!!!! Now that being said If someone offers me a rare numbered car for less than that, You bet Ill take it, Who wouldnt? so how am I wrong for not passin on opportunity, When others do its ok to be cheap?

Fact is they should be worth more than an 80's or early 90's rice rocket or mustird or thunderchicken... But they are not, You know why?
Cause the ones who like/enjoy/appreciate these cars are not willing to pay their true value, So therefore their prices eventually fall, Thereby justifying the logic that they aint worth much cause they aint worth it for whatever reason.

Think about it logically and then try and say im wrong....

If your honest about it then you cant.

[InfinityShelbyZ]

I've gotta jump in and disagree. Theres just too much ignorance going on in someone's postings to keep ignoring.
These cars were never advertised, touted, known like other things they're trying to be compared to. You can't compare them to ricers, b/c there were no ricers at that time to compare them to. Mustangs, Camaros...yes....but those were established cars at those times. The Daytona came in at a DISTINCT disadvantage in the respect that we're looking at them about. Trying to keep my own rant to a minimum, I must say it really pisses me off when someone is ignorant enough to sit here and say us TD guys are cheap. We certainly aren't and the nice thing about us that someone has failed to mention is that I noticed we've got to be the most innovative group of enthusiasts out there that are willing to really do a lot of amazing things w/ these cars from fab/custom work.
One more thing about us being cheap is the fact that these cars are being traded/sold back and forth b/n us enthusiasts. I'd rather an enthusiast have one of these cars than any other a-hole. We do a good job taking care of the remaining survivors. If someone knows the car is going to a good home, then they're going to sell it less. I picked up an 88 Shelby on Sunday for $50 b/c the guy knew it was going to a good home where is was going to be fixed back up rather than send it to the salvage yard to make $200 off it. Thats the kind of guys we have as enthusiast. I plan on dumping a nice chunk of money in this car to get it in amazing condition, cheap? I think not, shove it up your a$$ if you think us TD guys are cheap. Thats just a flatout ignorant statement and for things to be said like that on this forum should be punishable.

[RGHoskins]

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Originally Posted by utah_pure Sorry but the facts trump personal opinion, Regardless of how it may make you look at yourself or others. There is a reason some cars are worth more than others and it isn't always the type of car. Its called market value... if a car thats worth 4500 in low/average book value(nada of a 87 GLHS) that means it needs some work and is far from perfect. Thats what it should be worth right? But here RGH let me point something out that you clearly missed in your vitriolic response..... MOST TD GUYS ARE 2 CHEAP TO PAY 4500 FOR MOST ANY TD LET ALONE A NUMBERED SHELBY INCLUDING ME!!!! Now that being said If someone offers me a rare numbered car for less than that, You bet Ill take it, Who wouldnt? so how am I wrong for not passin on opportunity, When others do its ok to be cheap? Fact is they should be worth more than an 80's or early 90's rice rocket or mustird or thunderchicken... But they are not, You know why? Cause the ones who like/enjoy/appreciate these cars are not willing to pay their true value, So therefore their prices eventually fall, Thereby justifying the logic that they aint worth much cause they aint worth it for whatever reason. Think about it logically and then try and say im wrong.... If your honest about it then you cant.

fair market value is what somebody is willing to pay for it. And the fact remains that he can get a car that isn't that rough for the same price. I know you've taken on a single man march to turn these cars into Shelby Mustangs on the market place, but guess what...they aren't.

[moparfwdsleeper]

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Originally Posted by RGHoskins they aren't.

+1

[InfinityShelbyZ]

Nor do they need to be.

[NMike]

so i'm alittle confused here, i should buy it then?

[InfinityShelbyZ]

I say get us some pictures on it. Its really a matter of whether YOU think its worth it. The same item can be worth nothing to one person, but priceless to another. Just use your best judgement. Either way just keep the car nice and appreciate it.