Should i buy this 87 GLHS

[RGHoskins]

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Originally Posted by InfinityShelbyZ I say get us some pictures on it. Its really a matter of whether YOU think its worth it. The same item can be worth nothing to one person, but priceless to another. Just use your best judgement. Either way just keep the car nice and appreciate it.

that's the best advice yet. If you're buying this buy it because you want it and not as an advestment. That's not to say it never will be an investment, but you're gonna put alot more into restoring it than it's gonna be worth anytime soon.

[InfinityShelbyZ]

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Originally Posted by RGHoskins that's the best advice yet. If you're buying this buy it because you want it and not as an advestment. That's not to say it never will be an investment, but you're gonna put alot more into restoring it than it's gonna be worth anytime soon.

Definately...if you do any work on it then you're doing it b/c YOU want to, not b/c you think you're going to turn it. I've always done the work for personal satisfaction and fun. Enjoy it, its a toy!

[itsbudda]

Exactly. Build for you. Not for money.

[ljbprrfmof]

Taking another tack, if you check out Hemmings, or even eBay, and look at what $1500 - $2000 buys you in a restoration project, you may be more comfortable with this investment.

Other considerations to the cost is the location of the vehicle. It sounds like it is reasonably close to you, factor in the cost of traveling more than a couple hundred miles in a tow vehicle, or if the car runs, two vehicles on the second leg.

You can buy a lot of body work or parts for that expense.

If this is your hobby car, then it becomes more of a gut decision than looking at cold hard figures as when you are buying the family car.

Offer what you can budget, get that numbered car, make it nice, then bring it to a meet and show it off.

But above all else, enjoy yourself the whole time.

[Skyroof]

NMike,

If you are still following this thread and you still what the GLHS Omni, here is one that popped up for sale on the west coast. Looks to be a pretty nice, low mileage car.

1986 Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS

[The Pope]

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Originally Posted by RGHoskins So in other words, because everyone is telling him that he could get a much better car for that price, we're the reason these cars aren't taking off? Bullshit. You buy it for 1500 if you think it's such a great deal. But you damn well better restore it cause if you pay that for A GLHS that needs everything you're gonna have it for awhile...

One thing to remember, can he find another GLHS at all near by? Even if there is one 1,300 miles away for $1,500 it still is over $2,000.

A big reason the SDs haven't taken off is that the vice pres of the main SDAC believes there is no difference between a 89 CSX and a 89 ES Shadow. The numbered cars are diluted in the TD crowd to meaningless.

Hope? Shelby is doing something that wasn't done before, the new leader of his small empire is NOT a Mustang guy. The new leader is a woman, and she also controls a toy car factory, Mattel. For this reason there is now a Shelby club for numbered cars, and the car must say Shelby on it stock or it is not included. They are also spending millions expanding the Shelby center to show off all the dodges. The old Mustang guys did NOTHING for the Dodge guys. That ment for years all we had were SDAC guys that feel a Reliant is the same thing, ugly. Right now only the 86 GLHS is being showed off at Shelby shows, no one is driving out the other cars. I plan to mix in with my 89 CSX and my dad will drive down the 87 GLHS. The 87 isn't an ugly box thats fast, it also looks good. 10 times better with wind, insulting the charger. Are they really slower? I see 14.6 for drag numbers on a 87 and 14.7 on a 86. I think the 86 is way too low geared stock. Handling difference is TINY same with brakes. A couple ft in braking and a wopping .01 in skid pad. In the next couple years things will be changing. The SDs are going to get some attention they never had, with the new club and west coast guys getting off there butts and showing up. Of course ZERO help from the east coast it is up to the west coast people to try and get the Shelbys seen.

So back to the origanal thread, should he buy the car. $2,000 is cheap and more important. If you really want one soon you won't find one. Most I knew thought my Challengers were dirty smelly old cars. One of my dads neigbors sent him a letter to complain about my 72 Rally Challenger making the neigbor hood look dirty, that is lowered the worth of the neigbor hood being parked out front. This was a restored Rally with new paint and wheels. The cars were around and about $2,000 for a nice dirty complete car, now they can't be found. Those wanting one better get one, they are being crushed as fast as they are sold. Then you'll be crying over that fact you can't find one let alone any price for it.

[ACR Turtle]

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Originally Posted by The Pope Those wanting one better get one, they are being crushed as fast as they are sold. Then you'll be crying over that fact you can't find one let alone any price for it.

I agree. Its sad because the jy may be the very fate of my virtually rust free Horizon, which would be a great clone candidate as its already a turbo car. But not one person is willing to shell out $500 for a solid rolling chassis. So it will most likely end up a donor for my 86 "S" car and then to the scrapper. Much like the /6 and 318 Mopar cars of the 60's and 70's. Because you know, they are just junk and parts for my muscle car. lol

[The Pope]

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Originally Posted by ACR Turtle I agree. Its sad because the jy may be the very fate of my virtually rust free Horizon, which would be a great clone candidate as its already a turbo car. But not one person is willing to shell out $500 for a solid rolling chassis. So it will most likely end up a donor for my 86 "S" car and then to the scrapper. Much like the /6 and 318 Mopar cars of the 60's and 70's. Because you know, they are just junk and parts for my muscle car. lol

in the early 90s me and my uncle went a bought a R/T SE 383 Challenger, root beer brown in and out with slap stick and rally gauges. Tim needed the nose for his other Challenger and I wanted the gauges and wiring and dash parts. I was a nice straight zerop rust and bondo 70 Challenger with the numbers matching engine and so on in it. But we got it for $150 because it didn't run. We cut it up with a saw ans sold fenders off it and the trunk lid and so on. The took it to the crusher and got a wopping $15 for it. But hey, it was a 20 year old POS. Worth something nice but hey it was dirty and didn't run. So chop chop. I have chopped up 4 69-71 300s for the drivetrains. I had a 69 GTS 340 car with origanal air, went to the crusher in 93'. They weren't worth anything unless nice and running. A local car lot had a 70 R/T 383 car FS. Gorgous red and mint condition in 88'. Guy wanted $4,500 for it and my dad laughed at him. Then I got my 72 340 car for $2,200, new paint and interior work and a rebuilt engine. A beat on car but looked great, guy wanted 3,500 but we worked on him and he couldn't sell it for 6 months. Then I think back, maybe I should have kept them all.

[ljbprrfmof]

LOL I know a lot of cars that passed through my hands that would be nice to have today. If i had a $100,000 to spend on the cars then, they would be worth over a million now, easily. Just my demonstrators would be a nice collection come to think about it.

[The Pope]

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Originally Posted by ljbprrfmof LOL I know a lot of cars that passed through my hands that would be nice to have today. If i had a $100,000 to spend on the cars then, they would be worth over a million now, easily. Just my demonstrators would be a nice collection come to think about it.

I wish I had my dads old 70 Challenger today. Ice blue metalic, blue top, blue interior. R/T SE 440 6 pack car and he bought it new.

[RGHoskins]

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Originally Posted by The Pope One thing to remember, can he find another GLHS at all near by? Even if there is one 1,300 miles away for $1,500 it still is over $2,000. A big reason the SDs haven't taken off is that the vice pres of the main SDAC believes there is no difference between a 89 CSX and a 89 ES Shadow. The numbered cars are diluted in the TD crowd to meaningless. Hope? Shelby is doing something that wasn't done before, the new leader of his small empire is NOT a Mustang guy. The new leader is a woman, and she also controls a toy car factory, Mattel. For this reason there is now a Shelby club for numbered cars, and the car must say Shelby on it stock or it is not included. They are also spending millions expanding the Shelby center to show off all the dodges. The old Mustang guys did NOTHING for the Dodge guys. That ment for years all we had were SDAC guys that feel a Reliant is the same thing, ugly. Right now only the 86 GLHS is being showed off at Shelby shows, no one is driving out the other cars. I plan to mix in with my 89 CSX and my dad will drive down the 87 GLHS. The 87 isn't an ugly box thats fast, it also looks good. 10 times better with wind, insulting the charger. Are they really slower? I see 14.6 for drag numbers on a 87 and 14.7 on a 86. I think the 86 is way too low geared stock. Handling difference is TINY same with brakes. A couple ft in braking and a wopping .01 in skid pad. In the next couple years things will be changing. The SDs are going to get some attention they never had, with the new club and west coast guys getting off there butts and showing up. Of course ZERO help from the east coast it is up to the west coast people to try and get the Shelbys seen. So back to the origanal thread, should he buy the car. $2,000 is cheap and more important. If you really want one soon you won't find one. Most I knew thought my Challengers were dirty smelly old cars. One of my dads neigbors sent him a letter to complain about my 72 Rally Challenger making the neigbor hood look dirty, that is lowered the worth of the neigbor hood being parked out front. This was a restored Rally with new paint and wheels. The cars were around and about $2,000 for a nice dirty complete car, now they can't be found. Those wanting one better get one, they are being crushed as fast as they are sold. Then you'll be crying over that fact you can't find one let alone any price for it.

I respectfully disagree. Personally I think the Daytonas will be the next E- body. That said. I DO think these cars are going to take off but not anytime soon....at least 10 or 15 years before they are woth anything. And the fact remains that if you buy a 2000 dollar GLH-S that needs everything, if you restore it to perfect showroom condition you'll have alot more in it than it's worth. I told him to buy if it's because he wants it and I stand by that, but if he's buying it to make money, well, it's gonna be awhile. These cars sell for cheap everyday. They aren't worth much.

[turbokid]

I think the daytonas are too common to be the next E-body. The turbo cars might be rare someday but I think its the numbered shelby orginal performance cars that will get the big money. Just like an 08 viper will always be worth more than a 08 charger. Its rarity, price then, price now, and the performance aspect of the car. I also said he should get it because he wants it. Who cares about the value of a car if you like it. If you buy the car just because its valuable you wont enjoy it half as much as if you bought the car cause you liked it. I hope to own a numbered shelby someday. Even if its rough I like them and thats what I want.

[RGHoskins]

dude they built ALOT of E bodies, just like they did Daytonas. Also like the Daytonas, by the time they were 20 years old, most were either crushed or sitting in a junk yard. That's the only reason they are "rare" today, and they really aren't that rare; just expensive.

[turbokid]

The E bodys were originally built as a pony car to compete with the mustang.
Daytonas not so much. They were built as performance cars and marketed as such.

[RGHoskins]

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Originally Posted by turbokid The E bodys were originally built as a pony car to compete with the mustang. Daytonas not so much. They were built as performance cars and marketed as such.

the Daytona was as much a pony car as FWD car could be. It was absolutely built to compete with the Mustang. The G body filled the exact same niche in the market as the E body. And like the Daytonas, the E bodies were real unloved for a long time.