This will end the IC debait 100%

[FrankNbeans]

http://www.aeroforcetech.com/SRT4tech.html

Now if someone used this gage and did the intire FMIC swap. Same day, at operation temp this should prove what IC is the best IC and what are the cooling temps.

RPM
MPH
Intake Air Temperature
Engine Coolant Temperature
Injector Pulse Width in msec.
Long Term Fuel Trim
Short Term Fuel Trim
O2 Sensor Voltage
Manifold Pressure (vacuum/boost)displayed in PSI
Ignition Advance
Knock Retard
Throttle Position Percentage
Engine Load
2 user configurable analog inputs**

[Keith Alto]

I see your in on the group buy.
I expect a full report!

[Oni Snake]

nice, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I may end up buying a couple at some point.

[FrankNbeans]

Yeah.. i will see what i can do... Want to compile some numbers up and get an average on everything. This would be 100% effective to find out what one is the best IC. No way you can dispute these numbers.

[Keith Alto]

Actually I'm not so concerned with the IC's, just how well the guages work.

[FrankNbeans]

I am sure the gauges will work just fine. He has done them for GM cars already. Really all it is, is a DAB tool shuved in a gauge pod. Plugs right into the port.... really can't see it going wrong.

[njshift]

I'm tired of seeing people trying to determine what intercooler is better by using a chassis dyno. At least now air intake temps can be logged in a real driving scenario.

[sy2206]

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankNbeans This would be 100% effective to find out what one is the best IC. No way you can dispute these numbers.

Not really, because there are many other factors other then just intake air temp. There's things like pressure drop, CFM(how much air it can flow), and so on. Furthermore, things like boost pressure and ambient air will also effect the intake air temp.

The correct way to end the intercooler debate is to take them all, one of each, and gather data in a wind tunnel where you can control the variables. They would all be working in the same temp, same humidity, with the same charge air temp and same charge air pressure. Then you could monitor exit temps, pressure drop, and CFM all at once, and then compare.

[DblTrbl]

Although I'm building a SRT 2.4 motor for my Neon race car, I'm not up on SRT4 IC options.

With that said, the best IC is not necesarily the one that cools best. If it restricts flow but cools really well, then it's not better.

I've found that the most important factor about ICs is heat soak. If you have a massive IC and precool it with a fan, it will stay relatively cool while you're under throttle (at least for some period of time). It's more important (especially for drag racing) to dedicate a fan to pre-cooling the IC. If you have a really good IC that is heat soaked to the temperature of the engine compartment, you will not get much cooling effect from any IC.

The next important issue when choosing an IC is to make sure it does not restrict flow.

[contraption22]

How will this device read boost properly if the MAP sensor has been changed to a 3 bar, or a MAP clamp is being used?

[FrankNbeans]

not sure.. have to talk to the guys making htem.

[GLHS837]

Since it reads off the OBD info feed, not raw sensor data, it should be fine, Mike.
what voltage the PCM reads should be irrelevant, it'll output that data in normal form.

[contraption22]

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLHS837 Since it reads off the OBD info feed, not raw sensor data, it should be fine, Mike. what voltage the PCM reads should be irrelevant, it'll output that data in normal form.

Ok I understand. So if if the car is upgraded to S2 or S3, it will still read correctly, however to those using MAP clamps, it will be innacurate.

[GLHS837]

Yep, GIGO

[Keith Alto]

I've been thinking.
Where are you mounting this guage?
Does somebody make a single guage pod?
I don't think I'd use any more guages than this one.