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Old 01-21-2008, 05:19 PM   #1
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Hi everyone. I have a `84 rust free 68k Rampage.I have been looking for a good 8v tII donor car for awhile without to much luck. I am thinking about swapping in a complete SRT-4 and transaxle and need a lot of info. and advice.I have been looking in this forum and have found some good info. but need more before I decide if I want go the srt-4 route.Thanks in advance Steve.
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Well, you will have a pretty big project on your hands there, but it will be cool if you do it. Off the top of my head, I would say you are going to have to either build a custom wiring harness, or swap an entire SRT harness over. Motor and trans will fit and work, but you will have to build some custom mounts for them. I think that stock SRT axles will actually swap right into the rampage also, so that helps a little.
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Big project indeed. If you want to go all out...

There is a hole in the pass. side mount on the SRT engine that lines up exactly with the hole in the side mount on the car. Weld a nut in there and run a bolt through the side mount. Works in Neons too. Driver's side SRT trans mount may work with the Rampage frame mount, does on a K-car. Axles are the right length on a K-car, don't know if the L-bodies are narrower or not. SRT hubs fit on the lower balljoints, SRT tie rod ends must be used and may need to be cut slightly to get the toe right. SRT struts will also fit if you drill new holes on top and grind out the strut tower to fit the center of the SRT strut. SRT strut bottom holes also need to be ground out to get the camber right. If using L-body struts, no modification should be required outside of milling the SRT hub down to fit in the slot on the strut. A front mount will need to be fabricated, you can cut up a Neon front motor mount and bolt it onto the SRT block with some modification to the inspection cover. One might also be able to use the lower SRT torque bar on the pass. side and weld a mount on the K-frame. I'm trying that method, looks like it will work. I'd use the SRT wiring, all of it. Use the under dash wiring, keyless entry module, SKIM module with a key hidden somewhere, SRT gauges may fit in an L-body cluster. They look like they'll fit in a K-car one with a bit of modification. You could also find a way to hook up the old gauges, but that could get involved. You need at least the circuit board from the SRT cluster, since it is the body module and controls the lights inside as well as sends the fuel level signal to the ECU. I fit the SRT gas tank up in the K-car with some modification of the floor. I don't know how it would fit in a Rampage, if it doesn't, you'll need to find a way to put the SRT fuel pump/sending unit in there. You'll have a CE light with that route since the EVAP stuff won't work, which is why I went with the whole tank. SRT dash harness will have to be spliced into the rear lighting wiring, front lights will need connectors changed around. SRT radiator/AC condensor fit in a K-car with one bottom mount moved and an offset top mount made. SRT A/C restrictor block will bolt onto old evaporator, SRT A/C lines have to be modified slightly to match. SRT A/C drier will fit with a hole cut in the pass. fender well. I don't know about intercooler space on an L-body, but there should be enough space out under the bumper cover. Intake piping will need to be modified slightly to new intercooler inlet/outlet, as well as turbo inlet to filter. Firewall may need to be moved back slightly, K-car did about 1-1/2 inch. Heater box can be used, SRT heater core hoses line up. Some vacuum line modification for the heater controls may be needed. Clutch is hydraulic on the SRT, a remote mounted master cylinder actuated by the Rampage clutch cable is a possibility, there isn't any space to mount the master cylinder right to the pedal. The SRT clutch has two limit switches on it, one for full release, one for full engage. They would need to be rigged onto the Rampage pedal, the 'Page brake switch would need to be wired to the SRT harness. 'Page steering column wiring would need to be spliced in as well. If you went with Megasquirt or another standalone, you wouldn't have all that to do. SRT brakes will bolt on to the rear if you chop apart rear SRT spindles and mill them down to make them look like the spindle stubs on the 'Page. The rear axle need some grinding to clear the backplates, but the E-Brake cables fit and everything bolts together. I put the ABS controller and everything on it. 15 inch Cruiser wheels fit over the SRT brakes and may not have the clearance issues of 17 inch SRT wheels. P/S lines will bolt right up to your rack, you can mount the SRT cooler on the K-frame. You also should plumb the SRT pressure switch into the P/S pressure line, the SRT computer wants it there. Its nice if you have a parts SRT to pull everything off of. Pretty much look at it on the SRT, if you can use it, put it on the Rampage. I'm also probably forgetting stuff, there's just that much invovled.

That was long...

Honestly, if you want something a little less involved, find a T2 drivetrain. Wiring is much easier (just underhood changes), T2 rad/intercooler fits with one upper and lower mount modification, motor fits in, axles may need modification, shift linkage is different (cable vs. rod).
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I was planing on getting the srt-4 engine engine wire harness,ecu and the guage cluster and wiring.I have a friend who is a chrsyler mechanic who will help me with wiring. I wouldn`t even start without his help on that. I`m also wondering about what it takes to get the hydraulic clutch set up working? I saw something about a thread on that but have not found it yet.Anyone with motor mount info or what to start with would be a big help.Thanks
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its been done on 2 so far, Dean Stillie and i think a blue rampage i dont know the owners names
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:25 PM   #6
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i,m doing the swap into a GLH Omni basically the same thing as a rampage. it has been a rocky road but not to bad. i'm using 89 tII electronics all you have to do is have a distributor adapter made that go's in place of the cam sensor. the mounts arn't too bad if you got a welder. once you got the motor in there it's down hill.
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