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Old 04-12-2008, 02:08 AM   #1
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Hi, I'm a newbie...just picked up a '05 SRT-4 w/ 40k mi on it. I noticed though, when I was test driving the car, a set of toggle switches in between the rear window defogger and 12V power outlet below the cd/radio unit. When I asked the stealer at the car stealership, he said, "Oh, I think those are stock", but I kinda stopped asking him stuff after that cause I was pretty sure he didn't really know much.

The switches appear as follows, from left to right: 1) a blue switch with what a rectangle w/ 2 sets of dots that look like something spraying towards the center of the rectangle on the inside left and inside right of the rectangle...flicking this down turns on a blue LED mounted into the dash under the stock boost gauge, 2) a scroll wheel that turns from zero thru three, and 3) a red switch with a gas pump and "100 +" written on it, which turns on a red LED under the boost gauge when pressed.

Does anyone know what these are/do?
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Old 04-12-2008, 02:18 AM   #2
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sounds like Turbo toys, you can the 100+ is for running 100+ octance gasoline (so the computer can adjust for it) the 1-3 is boost I would assume? someone correct me if Im wrong, and the first you mentioned is the intercooler sprayer.


WHAT ARE TURBO TOYS?
Turbo Toys components includes all of the components needed to install a intercooler sprayer, a high octane mode switch, and a dial-a-boost switch.

Intercooler Sprayer
The intercooler sprayers increase the efficiency of the intercooler and reduce charge air temperature, resulting in increased engine performance. The blue indicator lamp will illuminate whenever the system is spraying.

The four fine mist water spray nozzles attached to the front mounted intercooler are activated by the 3-position blue rocker switch located on the TurboToys bezel. The three intercooler spray system modes are defined as follows:

Off - No spraying will occur in the off position.

Auto - This mode uses an algorithm in the PCM to optimize charge air cooling with minimum use of fluid. The PCM monitors vehicle speed, ambient air temperature, charge air temperature, and throttle position to determine when to spray the intercooler.

Manual -This mode is activated when the switch is fully pressed down. The result is a constant spray of water upon demand. The sprayers will stay on continuously while the switch is held down and will remain on for a short time after the switch is released.
NOTE: Distilled water is the recommended fluid for the intercooler sprayers. Use of the intercooler spray system is not recommended in driving conditions that warrant use of washer solvent.

Dial-A-Boost Switch
This feature lets you manage boost on demand by adjusting the 4-position thumb wheel located on the Turbo Toys bezel. Through boost torque management, engine output can be optimized for the best launch and drivability in conditions varying from the sticky launch pad at the drag strip to snow covered pavement.

The thumb wheel can be set to the following four positions:
Position 3 - This position provides the highest boost level with torque management optimized for traction limit with high grip tires.

Position 2 - This position provides the highest boost level with torque management optimized for traction limit with the OEM tires.

Position 1 - This position provides mid-level boost. Position 0 - This position provides minimum boost.
Turbo Intercooler Sprayer- The four fine mist water spray nozzles attached to the front mounted intercooler are activated by the 3-position blue rocker switch located on the Turbo Toys bezel. Off – No spraying will occur in the off position.
Auto – This mode uses an algorithm in the PCM to optimize charge air cooling with minimum use of fluid. The PCM monitors vehicle speed, ambient air temperature, charge air temperature, and throttle position to determine when to spray the intercooler.
Manual – This mode is activated when the switch is fully pressed down. The result is a constant spray of water upon demand. The sprayers will stay on continuously while the switch is held down and will remain on for a short time after the switch is released.

The intercooler sprayers increase the efficiency of the intercooler and reduce charge air temperature, resulting in increased engine performance. The blue indicator lamp will illuminate whenever the system is spraying.

NOTE: Distilled water is the recommended fluid for the intercooler sprayers. Use of the intercooler spray system is not recommended in driving conditions that warrant use of washer solvent.

Dial-A-Boost Switch- Fill the tank with 100 (R+M)/2 octane unleaded fuel, press the red switch located on the Turbo Toys bezel, and discover instant torque and power gains. The PCM will increase spark advance and adjust fueling to take full advantage of the 100 octane unleaded fuel. The red indicator lamp will illuminate when High Octane Mode is active.

During High Octane Mode operation, the PCM prevents damaging detonation via the OEM knock detection system. High Octane Mode will be bypassed if damaging knock is detected. The red indicator lamp will blink when High Octane Mode is bypassed. Spark advance and fueling are returned to standard levels in bypass mode. The blinking indicator light can be turned off by pressing the red High Octane Mode switch. Entering bypass mode is an indication that higher octane fuel is required.

NOTE: It is recommended that the level of premium fuel be as low as possible when adding high octane fuel. The tank level should be reduced until the low fuel indicator is blinking and filled completely with 100 (R+M)/2 octane unleaded fuel before the High Octane Mode is engaged. The use of leaded fuels will cause damage to the vehicle’s catalytic converter and oxygen sensors.

More Components... (1) Switch Bezel
(1) Pump
(1) P-Clamp
(1) Screw 1/8” X ¾”
(4) Water Jet Nozzle
(2) Water Jet Bracket
(1) Water Jet Bracket Strap Tie kit
(12ft) 4mm Nylon Tubing
(2ft) 6mm Nylon Tubing
(1) Check valve
(1) Water Filter
(1) Connector 6mm-4mm
(1) Connector 10mm-6mm
(1) Connector 4-way 4mm
(1) Washer Bottle Grommet
(12) Band Tie
(1) Bond All Gel
(1) Wiring Harness


Calibration Features:
Increased WOT and part throttle boost. To develop additional peak power and peak torque for the Stage 2 package, the boost was increased for wide-open throttle (WOT) conditions. The boost was also raised for part throttle conditions to enhance the drivability.


Improved turbo response. The Stage 2 turbo wastegate control was retuned for better turbo response. Not only will the Stage 2 deliver more torque and power, it will also deliver it faster.


Boost hold feature during WOT shifts. Keep the pedal to the metal, blip the clutch, and grab the next gear. Do it fast enough before the redline, and your reward will be a zero-lag, constant boost shift.


Enhanced first gear boost schedule. The maximum boost in first gear is increased to deliver more torque and power to the road for a higher performance launch.


More aggressive exhaust note during deceleration. More pops, snaps, and burbles during closed throttle decelerations and between shifts.


Optimized calibration for the Mopar Performance Blow-Off Valve. (Sold separately). The Stage 2 kit has improved the functionality, and the audible performance of the integrated re-circulation valve with the BOV conversion kit in mind.


Increased Rev Limit. The Stage 2 calibration increases the engine redline to 6500 RPM from 6200 RPM. Stage 2 Turbo Upgrade Kit Performance.
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:09 AM   #3
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awesome, exactly what I needed to know!!! thanks!!!

quick question (probably not so quick answer, lol), what do I need to look for under the hood to find out if the upgrade is stage 1/2/3?
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Old 04-12-2008, 05:13 AM   #4
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youll need to wait for someone elses reply on this lol. I would assume stage 2 from the turbo toys list. It may be printed somewhere on the ECU.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:37 AM   #5
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do you have any pictures? just curious to see thats all. no real diagnostic reason lol
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Old 04-12-2008, 08:44 AM   #6
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It's either Stage 2 or 3. You don't get Toys with Stage 1 which the 05 already has since basically stage 1 is just to get the 03's up to 04-05 power levels.
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:28 AM   #7
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quick question (probably not so quick answer, lol), what do I need to look for under the hood to find out if the upgrade is stage 1/2/3?
I think the easiest way would be to look at the pn on the computer,(will be hard to see, try using a mirror) located on the core support/driver side framerail under the airbox. The only thing stage 1 did for my 05 wa shelp in not being such a boost nazi, and not setting fault codes. 10 hp for $300 FTL.

EDIT:you could look at the turbo to see if its stock, which would eliminate stage 3 if it is stock. It goes into the exhaust manifold like a stocker so don't assume its stock because its not bolted to a manifold like our older TD's.
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Old 04-12-2008, 07:40 PM   #8
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easy way to tell if it's a stage 3 is if there is 'mopar' lettering on the compressor cover of the turbo. It should be easy to see if its there.

Both stage 2 and 3 have the fuse relays in a holder in the engine bay. I have installed a few of both kits (I personally have S2) and the instructions from mopar say to clip this relay holder just under the weather seal for the hood right above the brake fluid reservoir. It should be mostly black with a little blue on it.

I did a how-to for installing S2 a long time ago on the srt boards but here is a pic of what I mean (in between the strut tower and the brake fluid reservoir) :
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