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01-03-2006, 05:57 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Induct: Turbo + Nitrous
1/4: 0.000
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If it's what you want, keep it, if it's not, then sell it. From my experience holding onto a car just because it's a low #'s car or you think it may go up in value or something like that is not fun. No matter how much you think it's worth, if it's not what you want, you're not going to be happy with it. But if that IROC is what you want, then you'd be in love with it still and not want to sell it. It gets very boring driving the same thing forever and everyone needs a change eventually. There's been a few cars I've sold that I've had a hard time letting go of, but after I've sold them to move onto new projects that I wanted, I've never looked back or missed a car I've sold.
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01-09-2006, 11:27 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Morrison, Colorado
My Ride: 1986 Shelby Charger
Engine: 2.2 liter Turbo III
Induct: Turbo + Nitrous
1/4: 0.000
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My problem is that I usually don't get rid of my old cars. Only two cars I've ever gotten rid of, everything else I still have. 68 Vette, 68 Firebird, 86 IROC Camaro, 52 GMC pick up, 02 Grand Am GT. The only one that doesn't run right now is my Shelby Charger, but with gas prices the way they are, I think I will go back to a turbo 4 banger. V8's are fun, and usually faster, (with some exceptions), but not as fun as turbos, and not as good on gas!
I agree with the above. If you don't want it, sell it. Someone else out there may be dying to own one, but like me, can't find one locally. Or maybe you're like me, and have a problem getting rid of your older cars...
I get too attached to them.
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01-10-2006, 02:26 PM
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#20
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Keep it
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Toledo, OH
1/4: 0.000
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If you're in no hurry then I suggest you keep it. The "Charger" is back, and we'll soon have the Challenger. This Hemi thing is really being promoed hard by Daimler/Chrysler, the Viper has kicked some serious tail in Lemans, the SRT line is one of the baddest of any car manufacturer, Mopars are serious competitors in NASCAR, NHRA, Sprints & several others. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Dodge is back and they're making a serious name for themselves. I believe their success in racing had a lot to do with their muscle cars being as high priced as they are today. I also believe that the R/T Daytonas have everything those old muscle cars had (with the exception of an intimidating v8) to maybe be worth some serious cash some day. Ever since I sold you mine, I've been seeing R/T after R/T being parted out. I'm not saying that you have the Hemi 'cuda of the 90's, but man... you just never know.
OH, and yours is the only one I've seen so far with that factory tag, next to the option code, that says factory show car.
Just my .02.
Carlos
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01-10-2006, 08:45 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Morrison, Colorado
My Ride: 1986 Shelby Charger
Engine: 2.2 liter Turbo III
Induct: Turbo + Nitrous
1/4: 0.000
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You really think Daimler Chrysler will build the Challenger as the show car is styled? They ruined the Charger R/T concept by rebadging a 300M instead. I can't wait to see how the styling geniusses ruin the Challenger.
Well, at least they got rid of Bob Lutz. GM picked him up and he promptly killed off the popular Firebird/Camaros and overpriced a rebadged Holden and tried to pass it off as a GTO.
I'm not normally a Ford fan, but they've been doing everything right lately.
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01-10-2006, 10:42 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: indy
1/4: 0.000
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well i think the new Challenger is one of the hotest cars out their, they are going back to their roots....and will soon be all the rage,, ck this out, makes me drool every time i see it. http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html their is no other auto maker that can touch this... just my 2cents
Last edited by DaytonaConnection; 01-10-2006 at 10:55 PM.
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01-10-2006, 10:50 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: West of St.Louis
My Ride: 92 Iroc R/T
Engine: T-3
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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I think DC owes all of the die hard mopar fan base the challenger. It would be a slap in the face if they germanized it. The germans don't understand the concept of big horse power, 2 doors and rwd. Let us pray for mother mopar.
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01-12-2006, 10:59 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Morrison, Colorado
My Ride: 1986 Shelby Charger
Engine: 2.2 liter Turbo III
Induct: Turbo + Nitrous
1/4: 0.000
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Don't know if I agree with that. Ford was the first on the pony car market with their new Mustang in 1964 (1/2). EVERY other pony car that came along, Camaro, Firebird, Trans Am, Baracuda, Challenger, Charger, Javelin, AMX, was an answer to the Mustang's immense popularity. Ford more than ever, is going back to their roots, and it's Chrysler and GM that is STILL playing catch up.
GM fired Bob Lutz after watching Ford run away with the pony car market unchallenged, and reassigned him to Foreign sales, if I remember right. Now they're designing a very retro GTO that looks like a modernized '65, and they're bringing back the Camaro in a first gen style. No Firebird though, looks like they've killed off the Pontiac pony car for good. I don't know if the GTO can be considered a pony car when they want Corvette prices for it. That defeats the definition of a pony car.
Chrysler had some great pony cars going in the 80's and early 90's with their variations on the 2.2 turbo motors. And just at the pinnacle of 2.2 performance, they killed the 2.2 and came out with the new turbo motor that looks suspiciously like a Mitsubishi engine. Now Chrysler wants back in to the pony car wars. Well, welcome back. But instead of teasing us with beautiful show cars, I want to see them build it. Still, I suspect Daimler will try to at least Germanize the price and want about as much as Pontiac's GTO, just because of the "hemi" name. So at $39,000, it won't really be a pony car either, will it? It'll just be another nice "unobtanium" retro car.
GM built the SSR to look like an old 50's Stovebolt truck, but it's so heavy that it takes an LS6 to make it at least go reasonably well. That and it also is priced like a Corvette, with a mid 40 grand pricetag. The Holden is supposed to convince us older guys that it's a new GTO, but to look at it makes me sleepy. It looks like any other Cavalier. GM realized their mistake and they're making it look like a mid-60's GTO, which is cool, but who's gonna buy it at 39 grand? I'm sure an LS1-powered retro Camaro will be desireable too, but same story there.
The reason Ford still holds the pony car crown is because you can get a great looking retro Mustang GT for UNDER 30 grand. And that still makes it a true pony car. It's the other car manufacturers that don't get it. They keep building their huge SUV's and wonder why the Mustangs are so popular. Duh!
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01-12-2006, 01:01 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: West of St.Louis
My Ride: 92 Iroc R/T
Engine: T-3
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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One correction on the above post. The plymouth barracuda beat the mustang out first in 1964.
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01-13-2006, 09:22 AM
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Sell or keep?
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Aurora, Colorado
My Ride: Red 91 Spirit R/T
Engine: 2.2
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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I am in the same boat. 5 years ago I bought a 91 R/T with 52,000 on it. Drove it for a couple of years and then when the turbo started smoking, parked it (in a garage of course under a car cover) and started accumulating parts to repair. Now has 69,000 and I have the new turbo and other parts still sitting in the trunk. Not in a hurry to do anything with it since I have other transportation and resale prices don't support me selling it. I love driving the car and can afford to sit on it until these cars start showing their REAL value in the market. Ocassionally, someone will show interest in buying it but then quote the NADA book value and expect me to sell it to them for what a used tired generic Honda would sell for. I don't think so.
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01-13-2006, 11:09 AM
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#29
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Morrison, Colorado
My Ride: 1986 Shelby Charger
Engine: 2.2 liter Turbo III
Induct: Turbo + Nitrous
1/4: 0.000
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That's probably why they aren't in the newspapers more often. Recently, there was an '84 Daytona in the Denver Post that was for sale for about $6500. For a standard Turbo 1 Daytona, that's a lot of asking price. True, it was pristine and was taken care of over the years, and had a 2 grand stereo system in it, but not many people will cough up that kind of money for something like that. That and no bank out there will finance for anything BUT the blue book value, and usually have a minimum, of something like a few thousand dollars and won't finance any lower. So with banks refusing to loan money for a car like that, that can't reflect the bluebook value, it is unlikely that the guy will ever get anything near what he expects for his baby.
That's the unfortunate truth, and is likely why we don't see more turbo Dodges for sale in the papers.
I've been on the look out for an IROC Daytona for sale for a long time, but I'm probably not willing to pay much more than blue book value for one, and so no one is probably willing to sell, for the same reason.
The answer is to drive it until the wheels fall off. That's why I still have my Shelby Charger. It's not worth selling, and it's in beautiful condition, so I'll put a motor back in it and have fun with it.
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01-13-2006, 04:48 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: nj
My Ride: TIII R/T
Engine: 2.2L TURBO III
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.743
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Originally Posted by ColoR/T
I am in the same boat. 5 years ago I bought a 91 R/T with 52,000 on it. Drove it for a couple of years and then when the turbo started smoking, parked it (in a garage of course under a car cover) and started accumulating parts to repair. Now has 69,000 and I have the new turbo and other parts still sitting in the trunk. Not in a hurry to do anything with it since I have other transportation and resale prices don't support me selling it. I love driving the car and can afford to sit on it until these cars start showing their REAL value in the market. Ocassionally, someone will show interest in buying it but then quote the NADA book value and expect me to sell it to them for what a used tired generic Honda would sell for. I don't think so.
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are they at least trying to give you what a nice Honda tractor might go for as payment lol
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