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04-05-2006, 08:07 AM
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Boostaholic
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Minneapolis,MN
My Ride: 91 Shadow ES Vert.
Engine: 2.5 T1
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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I would pay $50 for instructions, I would hate to miss something with $2000 or more invested in a block, head, turbo. I was thinking about doing a conversion myself but reading all the different forums can become confusing at times since everyone has there own way of doing things and then you wonder if there way is the best? What if they did something wrong that could result in a future engine failure? I guess it's a uncharted conversion and alot of people are still working out the bugs.
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04-05-2006, 09:33 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Knoxville, TN
My Ride: CSXT
Engine: 2.5
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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no need to pay 50 bucks for anything. I am compiling everything russ sends me on to my website. Just click on the link on the previous page.
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04-05-2006, 02:10 PM
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Boostaholic
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Minneapolis,MN
My Ride: 91 Shadow ES Vert.
Engine: 2.5 T1
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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Sweet!
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04-05-2006, 07:52 PM
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#20
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Hybrid Booster
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Alberta Canada
My Ride: 89 voyager van
Engine: hybrid dohc 16v 2.5l
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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Guy's,There are so many variables with this conversion,that an instruction manual would end up still being a basic guide.
I understand your position,as I was there once too,but I planed my conversion for more than a year before it was started and now have a runner.
I found that by writing notes on various peoples ideas for the different areas ,such as the head,block,exhaust and intake manifolds etc,then sorting through them with my budget being a large factor,really enabled me to form a proper plan and set of instructions for my self.Having a relistic budget for your end goal is hugely important,and underestimating usually brings a project of any sort un done....or drags it out until the interest in it runs out.
Deciding on what ideas I felt were solid and trustworthy,or possibly un reliable,came down to trusting my own experience and skill (minimal on a good day!!)and LOTS of reading here.
I also believe that designing your own instructions for your own project gives you a much stronger understanding of the finished engine,and that makes Ironing out the bugs once running alot easier,and stops the builder from perhaps 'blaming' the instructions someone else wrote for problems or mistakes along the way.
It's a great project that tested me in all ways,and I know the next one will be alot easier and quicker to build,with some things done different to the first conversion.
Good luck!!
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04-06-2006, 10:35 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Knoxville, TN
My Ride: CSXT
Engine: 2.5
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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I havn't had a chance to look at it yet but I got an email from some one with tons of pix and info on their 16v conversion. I will be posting it on the site some time this weekend. I will let you know when its up.
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04-07-2006, 02:42 PM
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Boostaholic
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: goodrich MI
My Ride: 85 laser
Engine: 2.5
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.720
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The reason nobodys gonna offer a kit is because then your going to be blaming them when your stuff goes up in flames because you don't have the experience and skill to handle the job. If your not even willing to do some research then this job is just gonna drain your wallet and turn your car into a garage decoration.
jim
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04-14-2006, 12:58 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Centerville, TN
My Ride: 1985 Shelby Charger
Engine: 2.2 turbo II
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.538
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Originally Posted by OmniGTI
Actually what they should sell (imho!) is a set of preconverted front and side mounts, a billet peice to hold the distributor on the cam, a pre-slotted cam and a fuel rail for for the neon manifold with a return line and TD injectors. Then anyone could bolt in a 2.4 with minimal hassle.
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I gotta agree with that. Of course, I'd take a crank pulley with SDS hall sensor magnets over the billet distributor tie down and pre-slotted cam.
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Kevin Isenberg
1985 Dodge Shelby Charger - SDS EM-4F electronics Timeslip
12.538 @ 111.71 mph - Not even breathing hard.
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04-14-2006, 01:58 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
My Ride: 1989 Turbo Caravan
Engine: 2.5L 8V Sohc
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.400
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Originally Posted by OmniGTI
Actually what they should sell (imho!) is a set of preconverted front and side mounts, a billet peice to hold the distributor on the cam, a pre-slotted cam and a fuel rail for for the neon manifold with a return line and TD injectors. Then anyone could bolt in a 2.4 with minimal hassle.
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Great idea Sean.
Another for doing the Neon head swap would be gears, timing belt, idler pulleys, the oil/coolant lines for the head, dist adaper if needed and the block plugs. Thats a big chunk of the mess needed, then its up to said customer to figure out his manifolds.
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04-15-2006, 12:52 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Knoxville, TN
My Ride: CSXT
Engine: 2.5
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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sorry about the lack of updates.... I get home from work at 10pm and I work with teenagers so I am dead beat by the end of the day.... Some one sent me a bunch of info and I am going to be putting that stuff up soon. I havn't even had the chance to look at the stuff he sent
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04-17-2006, 12:31 AM
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#28
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Knoxville, TN
My Ride: CSXT
Engine: 2.5
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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I finnally got around to looking at the zip files some one sent me with their info about the 16v conversion. I was going to put it up on my site but the files are named in a way that my host doesn't like. I will get around to changing all the file names later.
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04-18-2006, 03:34 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2005
1/4: 0.000
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Originally Posted by ShelbyGLHS592
I gotta agree with that. Of course, I'd take a crank pulley with SDS hall sensor magnets over the billet distributor tie down and pre-slotted cam.
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Kevin Isenberg
1985 Dodge Shelby Charger - SDS EM-4F electronics Timeslip
12.538 @ 111.71 mph - Not even breathing hard.
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Yeah but that would only work for you.
Cheap TD people demand use of stock electronics.
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12-05-2006, 05:53 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Knoxville, TN
My Ride: CSXT
Engine: 2.5
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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Updated:
http://www.juxsa.com/carstuff/16v/16v.htm
Also, look at the "Updated" link. I think it was scott who sent me the info.... I don't remember though. If you see any info on here that is yours let me know so I can give you credit.
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