s60 turbo

[overboostperformance]

does the super 60 turbo work on the 16v conversion or do i have to go out and get a holset ?

Norm

[UnaClocker]

Yes, aside from having a TD exhaust flange on it, which might be hard to bolt up to a normal turbo manifold. It can be adapted fairly easily though. Aside from that, the turbo's size should compliment the 16v head nicely.

[crazymadbastard]

look for a mexican exhaust manifold to run a TD turbo and stock exhaust system- or bigger td performance exhaust.

[tryingbe]

If you're gonna spend the money to get a 16V done, get a proper size turbo to match your goal.

[crazymadbastard]

My goal is to get it done, then step it up to a hybrid t3/t4. I am kinda stuck since I already have the s60 3in TU sv and 3in dp and mex manny and like the plug and play aspect.

So many possibilities with these now.

[overboostperformance]

same here i have the s60 that is on my 8v and was wondering the feasiblity (besides the flange) of using exsisting stuff or alotting more money into the budget of the build. i will be building the motor while the car is driving and hopefully next winter set that set up in.


Norm

[UnaClocker]

The Mexi should have a standard T3 flange. The S60 should have a TD flange.

[ZachT]

i have a question also.

within the next few months i will be starting to build a hybrid 2.2CB with a SRT4 head.

these header kits allow you to run any flange you want for any kind of turbo.
http://www.jgstools.com/turbo/index2.html

i have a TU S70 turbo with a .63 exhaust housing and 3in swing valve/exhaust. by using this header kit i will be able to put my turbo in basically the stock location and use this turbo. but what is the downside to using this turbo on a 16v converted common block? its got all the bad boy parts for a 8v motor and would like to keep the hot side of it for the conversion. i see everyone going with a T3/T4 hybrid turbo or a holset (im not taking it off my cummins). would this be a good turbo? i also have a large NPR intercooler and alcohol injection, but with these 16v's it doesnt take huge amounts of boost to make power anymore.

[speeduphoria]

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Originally Posted by ZachT these header kits allow you to run any flange you want for any kind of turbo. JGS Precision Turbo i have a TU S70 turbo with a .63 exhaust housing and 3in swing valve/exhaust. by using this header kit i will be able to put my turbo in basically the stock location and use this turbo. but what is the downside to using this turbo on a 16v converted common block? its got all the bad boy parts for a 8v motor and would like to keep the hot side of it for the conversion. i see everyone going with a T3/T4 hybrid turbo or a holset (im not taking it off my cummins). would this be a good turbo? i also have a large NPR intercooler and alcohol injection, but with these 16v's it doesnt take huge amounts of boost to make power anymore.

yeah you can put the turbo pretty much where you want it, you may have to modify the down pipe a little to bolt it up. I know my buddy had one built thats forsale, but it has provisions for an external WG(could block it). Anyway the turbo will do just fine, most go bigger because they are going DOHC to make more power and the DOHC handles larger turbos easier then the 8v. Only down side of that turbo is at a point when you turn the boost up it will fall at redline because it cant keep up, similar to the stock srt4 turbo

[ZachT]

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Originally Posted by speeduphoria yeah you can put the turbo pretty much where you want it, you may have to modify the down pipe a little to bolt it up. I know my buddy had one built thats forsale, but it has provisions for an external WG(could block it). Anyway the turbo will do just fine, most go bigger because they are going DOHC to make more power and the DOHC handles larger turbos easier then the 8v. Only down side of that turbo is at a point when you turn the boost up it will fall at redline because it cant keep up, similar to the stock srt4 turbo

so basically your saying a modified S70 turbo will fall on its face in a 16v at high rpms? even at 20-25psi? i thougt the S70 doesnt even perform well until its at around 25 psi?

so a S70 wont hold 7000 rpm's in a 2.2?

[ZachT]

i may have i figured out as well. beins i have a good turbo already, just a modified turbo but still a T3 garrett, all i have to do to go hybrid turbo is change out the compressor wheel and the compressor housing, bam!!! t3/t4 hybrid, not to mention it will have a .63 ex housing and 3in sv, ill try and mate that to the 'stock' 3 in exhaust on it now.

ooo, ooo, got a PT cruiser intake mani today----FFFFREEEEEE!!! yeah, same price as the srt4 head i got, it'll definately need cut up, but i have the whole manifold, including the TB and fuel rail and injectors. this is gonna be fun, hold my beer and watch this shit

[shelbyplaya]

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Originally Posted by ZachT so basically your saying a modified S70 turbo will fall on its face in a 16v at high rpms? even at 20-25psi? i thougt the S70 doesnt even perform well until its at around 25 psi? so a S70 wont hold 7000 rpm's in a 2.2?

thats what he's saying. it will fall flat on it's face.

[speeduphoria]

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Originally Posted by ZachT so basically your saying a modified S70 turbo will fall on its face in a 16v at high rpms? even at 20-25psi? i thougt the S70 doesnt even perform well until its at around 25 psi? so a S70 wont hold 7000 rpm's in a 2.2?

the turbo is only good for a certain HP(the airflow it can provide), I'm not up to speed on that turbo but should be around 330whp or so. So a 16v will only need 18-20psi to make that while an 8 valve will need 25psi+ to make that HP(something like that, as it depends on mods)).

So if your maxing it out you will spike 25psi(when it spools) then fall to 18psi at redline, basically you'll get larger torque in lower rpms when it spikes then the HP will fall as the turbo cant keep up

[whywoody]

I used a ford .60 compressor with a Chrysler .48 turbine for a while....It was impossible to control boost with the stock wastegate,having to continuosly back off the gas from about 2.5K rpm upwards.I swaped it for a Holset hy35,and although ALOT better,it too had bad boost creep when reved and wot....I modified the wastegate area of the turbine housing,and it is great now.The hx35 I also had,came with a larger turbine housing but smaller wastegate puck and port.I never actually tried running this before I sold it,but I would think from my experience that the stock hx35 wastegate would need to be modified to flow well enough.
I wouldn't run anything smaller than either of these Holset's,you would be wasting your time.

[jonnymopar]

Wait... if the Mexican cars got a "normal" style exhaust manifold and the turbo bolted to it, then what did they use for turbos?? I was under the impression that they used the same turbo-fold design as all the domestic 2.4T cars.