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Old 07-02-2009, 11:22 AM   #1
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Here's a couple pics of my laser project, these are just some cell phone pics but I will get my hands on a better camera soon hopefully.

If it quits raining today I should be able to drive it for the first time, it seems to be running fairly well on the stage 5 cal so far and is very responsive compared to the old 8 valve
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:33 AM   #2
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:55 AM   #3
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that is sweet! contgrats! what are the specs on turbo etc?
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Thanks guys its been a lot of work almost an obsession I think, but i couldnt have done it without the guys who came before me, heres a list of some of the parts inside

2.5 J&e pistons
89 common block .020 over
t2 rods with arp bolts
cast 2.5 crank polished standard size
97 neon dohc head
stainless valves
late model 2.4 cams
arp head studs
late model 3 layer headgasket
multi angle valve job
mild bowl porting
fwd hybrid adjustable cam gears
custom stratus intake 5" runners 3" plenum
ebay Hpr small tube header, port matched
38 mm external waiste gate
to4b H trim .63 stage 3, garret wheels and center section, supposed to flow 53 ppm, 360 thrust dynamic seal, stepped gap oil seal, balanced
3" mandrel bent downpipe
52 mm throttle body
2.5" intercooler pipes
talon bov
old kennebelle front mount intercooler
home made 8mm plug wires
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:45 AM   #5
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Took it for a ride and it is running very nice, been babying it right now but damn its got a much wider powerband, hit it once in 2nd gear for about 2 seconds and could not stop grinning.

It takes a lot less throttle input to keep the car moving and it feels very torqy on the bottom end.

what do you guys who have hybrids run for ignition timing ? ive got mine set at 8 degrees and i havent heard any knock
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This thing is a beast it would walk my 8 valve even at 14 psi, its so smooth, i used gus mahons tricks on the bobble strut and the sway bar shim and wow what a difference first time out with the mods and and it ripped the rearview mirror off the windshield on the 1-2 shift lol.
Took my brother for a ride and he had a death grip on the door handle, I think he was more than a little surprised.

I cant seem to find any info on the timing though can anybody give some suggestions on what they like to run
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^yes I would love to see some dyno number on that car forsure.
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Old 07-05-2009, 01:29 PM   #8
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Im sure the curves are going to be dramaticly different but its surprising how well its running on the stage 5, ive had to turn the fuel pressure down below stock and its still at 10-1 afr full throttle, just guessing I would have thought the pressure would need to be higher than stock but its still pig rich.

there is a new dyno shop about 5 mile away, I will have to stop in and see what they want for a pull or two if I ever get some extra cash and probobly should study up on the dcal and get a chip burner and some extra chips but id still like to know if anyone has safely run a base time setting that is fairly safe it seems like they run somwhere around 28 30 degrees total on thes pentroof heads.

I still havent found the red line it has such a long broad torque curve it pulls hard at any rpm, it will even pull a couple of pounds of boost in 5th gear at 55 mph.

Im surprised more people arent doing this conversion it was a lot of work but wow the window for potential is really opened up now with all the parts you can buy for these heads and the airflow capability
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:53 PM   #9
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Thank you, cool those tables look very similar to my old tunercat program, looks like i wont have too much to learn just a matter of money at this point but it would be nice to be able to go in and get it all dialed in, do you flash megasquirt or does it tune on the fly ?
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The header was originally for an srt4 with rectangle ports, I did quite a bit of grinding to match it to the neons oval port and its still necks down a little also had to hammer the firewall a bit to get some room but it doesnt hit, a to4e would probobly be a tough fit if it would fit at all but you could cut the turbo flange and reposition it.

Im really happy with it though boost comes on amazingly fast and the car just runs great, my friend took a video of it running with his phone but he cant find a way to send it to me.
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How do you like my original intake manifold ;) looks great, glad it made it on another hybrid motor!!
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I really like it, sure made things a lot easier, was going to make my own but couldnt find the tubing in a size I wanted and I have no experience welding aluminum yet even though i bought the supplies to convert my mig for aluminum welding, would eventually like to make a dual plenum with an equalization slot between the two.

Car is still running good got about 400 miles on it so far with the longest trip being about 80 miles, gas milage is off a bit only getting about 24 mpg average
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Old 07-26-2009, 04:07 PM   #15
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Took the car on 350 mle round trip and averaged 30 mpg with little to no tuning and running pig rich, and the timing set back to 5 degrees btdc, surprising for as far off as this cal is im sure, got a charge air code going off too, gotta figure out whats going on

Didnt use a drop of oil or coolant though and no problems except for the stupid electric exhaust dump keeps breaking the wires off mysteriously
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