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[Ondonti]

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Originally Posted by njshift You need to look up Dre "the pump gas king" over here in nj. He put down over 500whp on 93 oct in his 99 gsx. I believe his car is for sale though.

Spoolin here did 500whp on 91 pump piss. Im scared when his built motor gets finished. He will own the streets.

Its amazing to me.

[DirectConnection]

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Originally Posted by Ondonti Spoolin here did 500whp on 91 pump piss. Im scared when his built motor gets finished. He will own the streets. Its amazing to me.

Larry's R/T mentioned earlier in this thread laid down 505whp on pump gas as well.

[Ondonti]

bah, he was spraying alky + 500fwhp on the streets would spin the tires to 100mph

[NJ87ShelbyZ]

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Originally Posted by njshift You need to look up Dre "the pump gas king" over here in nj. He put down over 500whp on 93 oct in his 99 gsx. I believe his car is for sale though.

Yes, Dre put down 503awhp and 442 lb/ft @ 30psi on 93 octane pump gas. I was in the car when he filled it up and was there at the dyno session. He did not use meth or water injection, his car was perfectly tuned on the AEM with a conservative A/F. The amazing thing, is that this was done on a 50-trim turbo.

As for his car, it was sold a few months back and he has taken on something a bit more "raw"

[Ondonti]

Thats very impressive for a 50 trim. Im amazed he did that on pump gas and a 50 trim.

[WIDOWMAKER]

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Originally Posted by NJ87ShelbyZ Yes, Dre put down 503awhp and 442 lb/ft @ 30psi on 93 octane pump gas. I was in the car when he filled it up and was there at the dyno session. He did not use meth or water injection, his car was perfectly tuned on the AEM with a conservative A/F. The amazing thing, is that this was done on a 50-trim turbo. As for his car, it was sold a few months back and he has taken on something a bit more "raw"

Is 500-550 awhp about the most those things are capable of making on pump gas? If so, I'm somewhat surprised those numbers aren't much higher. 500-plus isn't bad, but considering all the R&D that have gone into those things as a result of strong aftermarket support, and all the years they were in production, I'd expect better numbers than that.

[WIDOWMAKER]

That is impressive for a 50-trim, though.

[DirectConnection]

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Originally Posted by WIDOWMAKER That is impressive for a 50-trim, though.

I think 500whp on a 50-trim is not possible..even more with with awd.

It's been proven here that an 8v fully built peaked at 408 whp as the turbo couldn't supply anyomore. Mopar2ya made 421 whp again...maxed out as well on a 50 trim..or super50.

Dynos can vary...and some even right out lie.

[Ondonti]

Im sure the dyno could be off.

One thing is for sure though, some cars can make more power on the same amount of airflow simply based on Cam timing events or superior combustion. We should all know a 4valve head will have superior combustion then a 2 valve.

The AMS EVO made 800whp on a gt4294 @ 40 psi and the turbo is unported. To me that seems impossible but..............

[DirectConnection]

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Originally Posted by Ondonti Im sure the dyno could be off. One thing is for sure though, some cars can make more power on the same amount of airflow simply based on Cam timing events or superior combustion. We should all know a 4valve head will have superior combustion then a 2 valve. The AMS EVO made 800whp on a gt4294 @ 40 psi and the turbo is unported. To me that seems impossible but..............

That 800whp car is just too crazy!

But, it's been mentioned even by Larry that there's not much over 400whp with a 50trim and that's with a fwd 16v car.

[john1320]

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Originally Posted by Omniboy here it is walking out of the car

Just spewed beer all over the keyboard!!

[njshift]

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Originally Posted by NJ87ShelbyZ Yes, Dre put down 503awhp and 442 lb/ft @ 30psi on 93 octane pump gas. I was in the car when he filled it up and was there at the dyno session. He did not use meth or water injection, his car was perfectly tuned on the AEM with a conservative A/F. The amazing thing, is that this was done on a 50-trim turbo. As for his car, it was sold a few months back and he has taken on something a bit more "raw"

I know he has (had?) a tastfully done supra.. Has he moved on to something else? Please share

[NJ87ShelbyZ]

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Originally Posted by WIDOWMAKER Is 500-550 awhp about the most those things are capable of making on pump gas? If so, I'm somewhat surprised those numbers aren't much higher. 500-plus isn't bad, but considering all the R&D that have gone into those things as a result of strong aftermarket support, and all the years they were in production, I'd expect better numbers than that.

Well, at this level (and on this turbo), it's the gas that is the limiting factor. He has surprised Ben at AGP (supplied the 50 trim) that he put down the numbers that he did. Very few have put down 500awhp on pump gas w/o doing damage to the motor. I'm sure that with a bigger turbo and meth injection, he could have gone much higher.

[NJ87ShelbyZ]

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Originally Posted by DirectConnection I think 500whp on a 50-trim is not possible..even more with with awd. It's been proven here that an 8v fully built peaked at 408 whp as the turbo couldn't supply anyomore. Mopar2ya made 421 whp again...maxed out as well on a 50 trim..or super50. Dynos can vary...and some even right out lie.

Everybody has their own opinion, but if his dyno numbers don't impress you, maybe his 1/4 mile times and mph would. It's much easier to doubt than to try. He really did take the time to choose all the proper setup parts and tuned the AEM to a point where it could not have been done any better. Here is his dyno graph...



If there is any doubt as to the numbers that he put down, call Ben at AGP and question him about Dre. He'll have no problem backing up what the 50 trim accomplished.

[NJ87ShelbyZ]

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Originally Posted by njshift I know he has (had?) a tastfully done supra.. Has he moved on to something else? Please share

He had a 94 Black on Tan supra, but sold that a few months ago... Recently, both him and I just bought Supras. He bought a 94 RSP Supra and is working his magic on it. I'm sure you will see it around during the summer