Twin Turbo Cuda project motor arrived

[tkelly27]

4200? thats crap, mayby with a hemi, and a fatty or two in there. My buddies 318 'cuda with a full interior weighed definately less than 3800lb, when he gets online I'll ask, it was closer to 3400lbs. With a 6 and no interior it should be even lighter. All the discussion of power handling and that, cramming a hemi/big block into a 'cuda with all the stuff to get it to make 600hp would not only hurt the pockettbook, but be a pain in the ass to stuff it in there. Meanwhile getting a diesel truck turbo, cheap ass single turbo manifold, megasquirt, IC, and bigger injectors could all be done for less than $1k and you'd be pushing 500hp. All that being said, for the love of god don't put a fart cannon on it!

[GLHS422]

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Originally Posted by 8valveprick I know I'm going to catch a lot of crap for even dreaming this up, but I'm going to try it anyway. Work won't begin untill I finish my Hybrid frankenstein Omni. "OH' what a feeling, Toyota!"

Rock on, bro.

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[bobjoe]

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Originally Posted by tkelly27 for the love of god don't put a fart cannon on it!

hey
build the motor up, challenge a few of the guys to a race (especially the ones not approving of YOUR idea for YOUR car) and kick there @$$. But, im with tkelly27, no fart cannon, theres one on my eagle, and i hate!!!

BobJoe

[Pandemoniac]

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Originally Posted by Mopar1970440 Personally when i see a cuda..i dont want to see a turbo toyota under the hood..but thats me.

Yeah, ya know, I'd be so pissed off and mentally scarred if I look under the hood and not see the exact same thing I see under the hood of all the other 'Cudas! I don't think I could handle that kind of change!

Personally though I'd give a few unique minor touches to the car in the way of bodywork and wheels, not "ricer-ish' but maybe kind of a modern flair, just to go with the high tech turbo engine.
Hey, it's better than some things I've seen! At the Autofair car show in Concord NC I've seen a nice looking Buick GN, and a glance under the hood revealed... An old truck Chevy 350.... When I asked what the hell he did that for he said and I quote: "I didn't want no puny v6 in there!"
However if I was to see a GN with a turbo EFI v8, I'd applaud that effort as it's only just a bigger dose of that good thing!

[ShelbyGLHS592]

If I had one of those engines, I'd put it under the hood of an older Toyata pickup.

Like this: http://www.sdsefi.com/features/feb05toy.htm
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[SUPERVAN]

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Originally Posted by ShelbyGLHS592 If I had one of those engines, I'd put it under the hood of an older Toyata pickup. Like this: http://www.sdsefi.com/features/feb05toy.htm

Thats what I call a down pipe. Looks like alot of fun. And he did that header himself!!! very nice.

[87shelbyZTII]

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Originally Posted by slomofo For those of you who are wondering if I own a Turbo dodge.... the answer is NO. I owned two previously, but never cared for them, sold one and donated one to charity. My background of Mopar and Mopar related vehicles includes: 69 Coronet, 3 on the tree slant-6 Dart, numerous Lebarons, the Sebring, an aries, a 97 Dakota, Ram50, 3 1G DSMs (2 turbo), 2 2G DSMs (both non-turbo), a 4G63 Galant, Mercedes S500, 500SEL, 560SEL, and 2 190Es, all the Mercedes' were pre-mopar but nonetheless, mopar still bought out Mercedes later on down the road. I've owned more Mopar & Mopar affiliated cars than most people on here (obviously I buy/sell cars), if you gotta problem with what I type, don't read it.

I dont think you are of any use here and you really annoy me

[Mopar1970440]

Pandemoniac...you couldnt handle that someone put a 350 into a GN...and you asked them why the hell they did that....so sounds like you were "pissed off and mentally scarred". If this guy puts this turbo toyota in the cuda its his car and money so he can do what he wants. You might want to do some research on cudas before you go around saying they all have the same thing under the hood...because that sounds like silly ricer talk.

[DKKNE]

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Originally Posted by 87shelbyZTII I dont think you are of any use here and you really annoy me

well said +1

[87shelbyZTII]

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Originally Posted by DKKNE well said +1

Thank You.

thats at least one other person who agrees with me

[Pandemoniac]

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Originally Posted by Mopar1970440 Pandemoniac...you couldnt handle that someone put a 350 into a GN...and you asked them why the hell they did that....so sounds like you were "pissed off and mentally scarred". If this guy puts this turbo toyota in the cuda its his car and money so he can do what he wants. You might want to do some research on cudas before you go around saying they all have the same thing under the hood...because that sounds like silly ricer talk.

Oh, I could handle it, I got a good laugh out of it really. And if you knew anything about the GM G-body line you would know that most of them came equipped with a chevy v8 in them anyways. Seeing a carbed truck motor was just un-creative and he's probably slower than he once was. His choice though, but he was trying to sell the car, and I saw it at Autofair AGAIN this year, so obviously nobody wants it!
And PLEASE, if you read what I had posted before, I was encouraging him to go ahead with the swap, and here you are acting like I dissaprove of it!! Where did that come from?
I've worked on more RWD v8 cars than turbo dodges actually, no cudas as of yet, but my point being it's most likely going to have one of the engine designs that it came with from the factory. so I see 'cudas with the 318/340/360 family, or the 440 engine, or the good ol 426 Hemi. Maybe what I said was a little mis-leading there, but what I'm getting at is unfortunately a large bulk of the musclecar crowd is ritualistically traditional and non-innovative. If you stray from tradition on such a car you're hammered on for 'butchering" it. People forget the roots of hot-rodding. That's kind of sad because I've been a musclecar kinda guy for longer than I've been into Turbo Dodges, but I'm always trying to do original things to make power, never really going "by the book". My behavior and actions towards cars couldn't be any further from the ricer mentality!

I guess the point I should have made at the start of this post is that in your retort to the things I had said, you basically disagreed with nothing I had ever really said, and all you really did there is agree with my feelings on the subjects at hand! Perhaps you should read what is said word for word, and perhaps go over it again a second time before you put words in someone's mouth that they never really said.

Oh, and BTW, well said 87ShelbyZTII! If you join a board for intellegent discussion of cars that you don't even like, and all you want to do is sh!t talk and put another board member down, LEAVE!

[440dart]

yeah after he puts that jc5997 engine in he could put a wing on it maybe some ground effects some christmas lights underneath and dual 6" tips put pimpn on the plates a nice shiney paint job with some sweet dragons on the side and maybe just maybe they will put him in the new way to fast way to furious movie. hey if wants to get that cuda going to be different he should make a sail cuda put a mast in the middle and some bedsheets now that would be un-origonal plus it would get great milage or maybe he could run 4 turbo 1100 crotch-rocket engines see i can come up a bunch of stupid ideas to and while everybody else is still standing next to the cliff maybe i will run and jump off of it to be different cuz everybody else is being origonal and just standing there somebody should take two 500hp turbo rx-1 snowmobile engine and chassis put them side by side in a honda crx just think of the traction and 1,000hp crx man that would be so sweet

[PentastarTurbo]

So what are your plans for the cuda once the swaps complete?
What sort of appearence setup or goals are ya shooting for?

I still think its going to be great to hear a Cuda rollin down the street all stealthy
till you hear the blow off valve poppin off..

[crazymadbastard]

I say go for it! I want to put a 2.5 16v Hybrid in a 60' mustang. Yeah it s perverted, but I want to anyway, I think a cosworth engine would be sweet too, but those are big $$ and rare on this side of the world.

[tvanlant]

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Originally Posted by CletusJones Cudas weighed in just over 4200 pounds, and with no interior like he's describing it'll probably be a little less, maybe even under 4000 pounds depending on how much the new drivetrain weighs. The mark 4 supra weighs in just under 3800 pounds IIRC, that's not a whole lot of difference. It definately sounds like an interesting swap for sure. It's not for me and I certainly wouldn't do it to my own car, but it's his car and he's all for it. Who cares?

Cudas are much lighter than Supras. They're a damn pony car. My Cuda, fully restored 340, 833, weighed in at 3350 w/o me in it. All my father's big block cudas/challengers tip the scale around 3600.

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Originally Posted by slomofo Toyota transmissions are their weak link. Although the stock transmission is strong enough to power the big Cuda, the GM TH400 & TH350 are the way to go.

Are you kidding? Putting a T400 or T350 in a mopar is just plain wrong. If you think those two can hold up to more power than an A833 or 727, you are messed up.