'99 3000GT VR4 info wanted

[iTurbo]

There is a '99 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 here in town. It's black, with green neon, and license plates that read 'TRBO'. I can tell it's a '99 model because it has the monster rear wing. I want to race it bad, but I've never had the chance yet. I see this car at a local stereo shop all the time, and I'm sure he's heard the RFL BOV on my Omni as I drive by delivering pizza. Anyway...How fast are these cars? I've been reading high 13s/low 14s at over 100 MPH. My Omni's stats can be seen here:

http://www.myturbododge.com/?fuseact...iew&uid=iTurbo

[iTurbo]

Oh yeah....I'm running about 12-13 psi at WOT right now. It's enough that the car doesn't hook until about 55 MPH. Am I kidding myself thinking I can beat this 3000GT?

[1badtgp]

I've been an avid DSM/ 3Si guy for a long time. Those things are quick! Especially when modded. They run steady low 13's stock, and modded will EASILY pull into the 11's. I would say if he's stock or LIGHTLY modded, you have a good race. If he's got some solid mods(IE: boost controller at 18psi with supporting mods) he will hand you your tail. It takes very little to push them over 400whp(they are 320hp stock in '99), but I will give you one thing: That Omni has a DEFINATE weight advantage. Just watch out for the AWD out of the holeshot.

[Tim_K]

Aren't 3000GT's pretty heavy? I think I remember reading somewhere that they were 3800 lbs.

I've seen pictures of them on eBay, and that transverse V6 with all the turbo pipes and stuff would be very tough to work on!

[Bl4ckD34m0n]

Yes, they are very heavy, but they have an excellent AWD system, and their motors are very solid and capable of handling upwards of 4 to 500 HP with little internal modification. As for working on them, they cost so much to own there are very few guys who actualy do their own work, so they pay someone else to do it. Good luck getting him to race you, most of the owners can be quite arrogant, seeing that with light mods they can spank a Z06 Corvette.

[b.auto]

Actually the VR4's awd isn't 'excellent', the main weakspot for these cars is the transmission. The transmission and the close to 2-ton weight.

Most people put down low 13's - mid-low 12's modded. The next step cost's an arm and a leg so most are stuck there.

[sexygomer]

i hear they have pretty much a throw away tranny, no workie on that beast, you break it, you bought it...ewww! and the are a beotch to work on, even an oil change is complicated

[Bl4ckD34m0n]

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Actually the VR4's awd isn't 'excellent', the main weakspot for these cars is the transmission. The transmission and the close to 2-ton weight.

Depends on the owner. I know a guy in south florida who has owned a 93 Stealth R/T AWD Twin Turbo since it was new, he was still on the original motor and 5 speed tranny, and he pounded out low 12's 1/4 miles every month, atleast till it got totaled sitting in a parking lot in miami, drunk driver in a suv ran off the road. He never had it dynoed, but it was probably running 450+ hp....Granted, he did spend allot of time and money keeping her running, new turbo's two years ago, head gaskets every 40k miles, new clutch every 60K miles. He was sad to see her go.

[dodgeshadowchik]

they are beautiful cars, ill tell ya that much! im impressed with my friend's 1996 TT AWD stealth. he says it's faster than his Srt-4. (yea, this guy has quite a few cool cars....he's also got a 1991 turbo eagle talon.)

the transmissions on those cars are thow-away, at least through the dealer (they just get entire transaxles if soemthing goes wrong). i think that's kinda stupid. maybe aftermarket offers soem rebuild parts. ?

[b.auto]

It doesn't depend on the owner, the VR4's transmission is made of glass. (especially the early 5 speed models) Your friend with the Stealth defied physics if his never broke. :big grin:

Check out 3si.org

[86gts]

the trannies are weak spots for some reason 3rd gear is the gear to go when they break. i have 2 friends who are big time dsmers one runs 10's in his 90 awd talon and the other runs 11's in his awd talon both on street tiresand cheap ones at that.they break trannies more than anything .

[Bl4ckD34m0n]

Like i said, he babied it, garage kept, had some shop in miami that specialized in AWD transmissions service the car regularly. I just talked to him last night, he is real upset. The drunk drivers insurance company is disputing his claims, and his insurace company only gave him 11k for the car, which is rediclious considering the condition of the car. He kept his receipts for all the turbo and tranny work he had done, but the shop couldn't verify them in time, so the insurance company refused to give him credit for it. He's looking into a new Nissan 350Z, he thinks it will cost less to maintain, if he can get a good deal financing it.

[dodgeshadowchik]

hey that's kinda funny cause my friend is having trouble with 3rd in his stealth. however, it is a 6-speed. isn't that one better?

[SuperSleeper]

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Originally Posted by Maximage They run steady low 13's stock, and modded will EASILY pull into the 11's.

I will disagree with you there. There's quite a few 12 second ones out there, but in the end their weight screws them over. There's only a handful of them past the 12 second barrier--even heavily modded.

[Vigo]

i disagree about the low 13s thing too. probly some of them do run low 13s stock, but if you look at the big picture, both generations, 5 or 6 speed, i would say on average they run high high 13s. thats stock tho.. considering those things gain like 30hp/psi or something like that, an mbc will probly drop a second or more on totally stock parts.