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Old 06-04-2004, 11:47 PM   #1
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Hey, I got this Lebaron and the body and stuff are all tricked out but I looked at it and the only mod it has on it is a blow off valve. I really need some help with this so far the one thing that I have found is a cold air intake. So everything else is stock... So does anyone have any advise?
 
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Old 06-05-2004, 01:44 AM   #2
 
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yup, watch and learn.. just cruise the forums and soak up the tons of info available, and ask specific questions when you know enough to narrow them down to something that doesnt require a novel to answer..

but be sure to ask in the right forum. since the lebaron is a turbo, this non specific question clearly does not belong in the NON turbo dodge forum.

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Old 06-05-2004, 02:03 AM   #3
 
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Yay, I get to link it first....
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It is the closest thing to Gospel that you will find in the Turbo Dodge community, and yes, your Chrysler Turbo is included in the Turbo Dodge umbrella, they all used the same Mopar 2.2/2.5L Turbo Motors.
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The car begs for more boost and an intercooler. A '92 does not have the hidden headlights/motor to work around right? Should be an easy one for a front mount I/C. ...yeah, dig around the DDG site.
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ok sorry i thought it meant none dodge vehicles that are still turbo charged. But ya this car has the hide away head lights. Does that make it more difficult? And if you could give me some more sites about where to buy this intercooler and what not. And about how much horsepower would you usually get out of a new intercooler, and would buying a bigger blowoff valve help? It has one on it right now but I cant tell if it is factory or aftermarket.. but it would probably help if i could find it. The only way i know that it has one is because I can hear it letting the turbo out when i shift.
 
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Ok, first of all, a Blow Off Valve has nothing to do with making power, it helps to increase turbo life by preventing Stacking, or boost building up in the system and putting pressure on the compressor. Also, by preventing stacking, otherwise known and compressor surge, you allow the turbine to spin freely under vacume and reduce turbo lag when you hit the gas again. Ok, now that we have that out of the way. Intercoolers, they are great, but there is much to be considered. An efficient intercooler that that reduces the intake charge signifigantly, may flow poorly and sap boost, and a high flow intercooler may not signifgantly change in the intake charge temp. All these things are important when deciding on what intercooler to buy, in addition to how much boost you will be pushing through it. You can find lots of cheap intercoolers on Ebay, specificaly, Vovo intercoolers, only problem, they have plastic end caps which tend to burst under moderate boost. Carefully decide what you want to do in the future and buy an intercooler that will be able to fullfill all your future needs.
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A Volvo IC is about impossble in the LeBaron, unless you butcher the headlight door/motor system. You can get a Conquest IC in there with some pipe mods. A factory IC (rear mount) would probably suffice. This would be easiest, but not the cheapest way. Remember that most of the speed advice that you will see is geared toward the Garrett,not the Mitsu turbo that you should have now. If you have the stock BOV, that's not a mod. It will be inside the airbox (behind the filter) and won't be too loud. You said when you shift...so, is it a 5 speed?
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So I have heard, I was just using the volvo intercooler as an example, since they are plentiful and cheap. I'm hunting for a Conquest/Starion intercooler right now, think I might have found one, guy at a salvage yard who was going to swap a Conquest/Starion Turbo Motor and drive train into his Colt, but the Colt got sold, so he is parting out the conquest now, hopefully I can get the intercooler cheap.
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Um ya its a 5-speed. Ok so by saying it will flow poorly and sap the boost wouldn't that just slow down the car... so by adding an intercooler what exactly am I helping.. But basically you are saying that I should get an intercooler about right in the middle so the Im not sapping boost but at the same time one that changes the intake charge. But thanks for the help so far and if you want to take a look at my car i have it up on this website...http://www.cardomain.com/id/younggun05.
 
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The car begs for more boost and an intercooler. A '92 does not have the hidden headlights/motor to work around right? Should be an easy one for a front mount I/C. ...yeah, dig around the DDG site.
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Actually, it does. It wasn't until 1993 that they went to the exposed headlights.
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Nice Lebaron. 1 of 227, 92 Convertible's with 2.5 TUrbo 5 Speed. The biggest limitation on the mods is your computer. It is difficult to find someone that can do a Re-Cal on the 92 SBEC. So you will be limited to 14 psi unless you add a zenner diode to the Map Sensor. Then you have to be very careful of your A/F ratio. My son has a 92 Lebaron GTC 2.5 Convertible that is stock.
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The same can be done on the Lebaron. The only real difference would be plumbing the I/C due to the headlight motors/doors. We haven't dyno this yet, so I'm not sure what HP/Torque it is putting out.

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so by adding an intercooler what exactly am I helping..
By dropping the Intake Charge Temp, you increase the overall density of the air, the denser the air, the more power you get from it. Yes, find a well ballance IC, from what I've heard, Isuzu NPR IC's and Starion/Conquest IC's are good options, in that they fit fairly easily and work well, and they won't break your wallet to get one.
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Dang I didn't know that there where only 227 of them made, that is pretty cool. So what else besides an intercooler can i add...
 
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I was just looking at you CD site and you said you found a cold air intake kit for it from K&N. I went to the link you had and the part you found is just the drop in filter. It replaces the stock paper element in the stock airbox. To the best of my knowlege nobody makes a cold air kit for our cars and if you wanted one you would have to fabricate it yourself. Just wanted to let you know before you bought it and were dissapointed with what you got.
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It is difficult to find someone that can do a Re-Cal on the 92 SBEC. So you will be limited to 14 psi unless you add a zenner diode to the Map Sensor
Why not just convert to a 90/91' ECU and wiring harness, they are pretty common from what I have seen, if you can't find one, I'll get you one for a good deal, I think I know where half a dozen are. How different are the ECU and Wiring harnesses between the 90/91's and 92+.
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