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Old 11-15-2005, 01:56 PM   #1
Will a Weber 38 DGES carb work on an 83 k car w 2.2  
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Hi guys, I'm new to this forum and I was wondering if I could benefit from the experience of all the intelligent people on here. I have a 1983 Dodge Aries with a 2.2L. At the moment I have really sucky power, and I'm getting about 20mpg, which really sucks. I'm wanting to scrap the Holley that's on there, and replace it with the Weber 38 DGES Carburetor since I'm planning on modding the motor. On all the Weber sites the only carb they have for the 2.2 with their conversion kits is the 32/36 carb. Would the 38 DGES be too much? I want to get rid of the restrictive airbox setup. Would there be room to have a K&N on top of the carb or will that be to high to close the hood?

Also I can't find any cfm ratings for any of the Weber carbs. What is the cfm of the 32/36 and the 38?

How come the 2.2's don't seem to need that much carbration? My brother is a VW nut, and he had dual 44 IDF's on a 1.9 air-cooled. How big can I go with a carb on the 2.2?

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Old 11-15-2005, 04:29 PM   #2
 
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DGS is TOOOOOO much carb for a stock automatic car. you really want the DGV carb 32/36mm.. same as the stock one. you should look for one of them Jeep weber conversion kits with the air cleaner assembly. Ebay is a decent source for these carbs.
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:36 PM   #3
 
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The type of carb youre gonna run depends on how u drive the car. If this is a daily driver with very lil mods id go with the 32/36 and have your bro teach you how to tune your weber. Itll get better gas mileage and run smoother. The 38 i think will be a lil too much cuz both butterflys open at the same time and youll be getting 20mpg or LESS. If u already have the 38 id say try it and see how it runs. The 32/36 weber flows 325cfm and the Weber 38 is 390cfm. The reason your brother can run 44s is prob cuz hes done a LOT of mods to his motor, when u run BIG heads, a BIG cam, and BIG pistons/jugs u need big carbs.
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Old 11-15-2005, 10:14 PM   #4
 
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I am planning on doing considerable mods to the engine. I want to run the mopar P4452765 cam, .460 lift, 240/248 duration, or depending on what I can get away with on my auto tranny, I might go full out and get an Isky Z-338 with .512 lift and 310 duration, I don't know how much the Isky cam wouldl rob off the bottom though, I would probably go for the Isky if there's some way it would work with my 413 tranny. I will also be swapping in a VW 009 distributor, ditching the ECU, porting the head and intake, getting headers, and a full 2 1/2 inch exhaust. I don't want to really mess around with raising compression much, as I'd like to run it on 87 octane.

If the 32/36 will not have a problem with those mods, then that's the way I would go. Otherwise I'll go for the 38, which will keep my fuel mileage at the level it is, but making power too.
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I run over 230hp with the 32/36 carb turning 8300 rpm. this was on a 2300 ford, .592" crower cam, 104 lobe center, 280° dur @ .050. 13:1 compression ratio. so if all that can run on 32/36, then you're minimal upgrades will be just fine. however the automatic will be a major problem with all that cam... you'll need a much higher stall converter and also you will have ZERO bottom end on the isky cam for really POOR street use. additionally to take advantage of that much cam you MUST increase compression.
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