Rampage Carburator

[ShelbySean]

I've got a 1982 Dodge Rampage and I need a new carb. The problem is I went to the Dodge Dealer and they needed the tag number of the carb before I could get a part number. I have the tag number ( R9584 ) but aparenlty when they punh it in, thier computers don't got that far back (only to 1984) and it says check the book. My dealership threw those old books out when they moved into a new building.

I need a part number for a 82 Dodge Rampage. Is it the same as a 82 Omni or what?

Any help guys?

Thanks

[Wizard]

Get a DFEV 32/36 weber with tuning kit and make new linkage lever. Webers are reasonable on ebay and usually new or very low miles. Chrysler carbs you can get are usually worn out unless you find a carb rebuilder that can rebush these throttle bushings but you have another issue: the throttle shafts are also worn!!

BTW, don't leave out details, is it a 5220 (plain carb) or a 6520 (feedback)?

Um the Rxxxx is invalid #. The numbers is on the base of the carb (need to take carb off to look at this numbers), you need full numbers and post this here.

I own 1987 caravan with 2.2 5220 carb.

Cheers, Wizard

[ShelbySean]

how do i know if its a plain carb. or a feedback type? I'm 22, so its not like I grew up with these things.

How much does a DFEV 32/36 weber with tuning kit cost? whats a reasonable to you? I plan on coverting the car to rwd with either a 2.4L turbo or 5.7L Hemi, so just need the car to drive fine for nearly a year. I don't want to spend "X" amount of dollars that will be a temparory thing.
A Weber huh? I've got a Holley on mine.

I'll take the carb off and get the carb. number and post them up here when I get a chance to work on my car (proably the weekend).

Thanks for all the help already Wizard

[2.216vturbo]

I'm with Wizard on this one. I dont have any carb motored cars but my Bro bought a Rampage recently and it was getting terrible milage and had hard hot starts. I found one of the 32/36 Webers on ebay and won it for $87. then in ebay stores there are rebuild kits for the Weber. i did a but it now for $19. the truck runs way better now but too soon to tell about mileage, only been a couple days

A good plan IMO even if you are only driving it a 'year' with the original motor. Make sure we get to see pics of the conversion


Alan

[Wizard]

Let see if I can find a pic, oh yes:

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jpero/allpa...6520small2.JPG

This what I have in my tiny collection of carbs, none are good as I buy them up for parts and to learn from. Caravan's is 5220.

Don't be afraid to ask.

BTW, this is my first vehicle, bought caravan used in 2003 and started driving it as my own last sept after I passed driving test for G2 license. Not youngin', I'm late 30's.

Cheers, Wizard

[90TurboVan]

'88 or '89 Omni with TBI. One day swap: swap tanks, underhood wiring (you will have to solder the old bulkhead connector on and the pinouts are different even though all the wires are all there), run one wire back to the tank from the ASD relay to power the pump, solder Omni fuel pump connector on that wire and existing rampage wire, swap carb for throttle body, do vacuum lines, solder rampage dual headlight connectors on Omni harness if you have an '84, mount SMEC in place of spark computer.

I think that's easier than playing with carbs, and you can't beat a car that starts every time no matter the weather and gets great mileage.

[xtrempickup]

i resent the idea that a carbed car cant run great, start everytime or get great gas mileage. my 84 rampage converted to manual choke carbed runs good, start everytime and the mileage is good also is it wasnt for porous lines that i have to replace under the car. if you install a TBI you need to change the fuel pump

[90TurboVan]

Carb'ed cars can run great, but they (at least in my view) are much less reliable in the long run. With fuel injection, every time I hit the key, the car starts. I don't have to crank for a while in the winter, don't have to wait for it to warm up so it doesn't stall, don't have to play with adjustments that are hard to get to and set. I guess I just don't like running on more than 100 year old technology when its that easy to swap to fuel injection. Its also easier to just swap tanks from a donor car, being as the Omni/Horizon tanks are the same as Rampage ones.

I might also add that carburators are volume based metering devices, not mass based, and I kind of like accuracy.

[edgl]

I have a 83 Rampage. I was using a carb, which I found a new one. However, when I had a new engine put in, I went to TBI from a 91 car. Also have a 520 trans in it. This little Rampage has a few goodies in it, and it runs really good. Even had the A/C upgraded to a 91 compressor, and parts. It has 1" lower sport springs in front, and 1" sway bars front and rear. This thing can handle. It is so much fun to drive.

[2.216vturbo]

The plan for my Bro's Rampage is to get it running well with the carb motor while we look for the right turbo motor donor

Wizard, since you have don the carb swap, tell me what you think...

We decided the simplest way was to run the weber carb backwards so the linkage would be on the correct side (did we buy the wrong weber carb?), but then the manifold holes are different sizes to accomadate the primary and secondary venturies. So then we had to open up the adapter plate thats bolted to the manifold a bit, do a bit of cutting/welding on the linkage and bracket to make it all work. Now the stock air cleaner is not gonna fit, there are a couple places it interferes... SO we fabed a temporay flat panel open element style filter. Truck does run much better and starts better, but we didn't really find the power that some have... I got a few messages from other owners running mid to high 15's with our same mods. This thing is nowhere near that

Anything we've missed?


Alan

[xtrempickup]

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90TurboVan Carb'ed cars can run great, but they (at least in my view) are much less reliable in the long run. With fuel injection, every time I hit the key, the car starts. I don't have to crank for a while in the winter, don't have to wait for it to warm up so it doesn't stall, don't have to play with adjustments that are hard to get to and set. I guess I just don't like running on more than 100 year old technology when its that easy to swap to fuel injection. Its also easier to just swap tanks from a donor car, being as the Omni/Horizon tanks are the same as Rampage ones. I might also add that carburators are volume based metering devices, not mass based, and I kind of like accuracy.

I bet it starts every time even when its out of time right,the battery is dead or the set up you installed didnt get done perfectly. TBI is very outdated also also very gutless and hard to make any power on.If you want a granny everyday driver, put the TBI motor in. Id stick with the carb at least it has power at high RPM, i had my carbed 2.2L over 105mph on the highway and it didnt have a hard time getting up to that speed and still had a good amount of RPM to pull with still. Go Turbo EFI

[90TurboVan]

I don't want to jack this thread, just suggested TBI. You can make more power with TBI than with a carb, and more efficiently. You would just have to dyno tune it, which you need to do with a carb to make real power. You would make more consistent and reliable power since EFI takes into account the actual mass of air entering the engine, and can dynamically alter the A/F ratio for greatest power or best emissions. I'm not saying you'll see any appreciable gains in power, but you cannot deny that TBI is much more accurate when tuned properly. There is no reason a TBI car would have less power than an equivalent carbed car. Does your carbed car start great when the timing is off or the battery is dead? TBI is not a solution for problems unrelated to fuel, and I never suggested that it was.

You going for 2.2 TII?

If you had a feedback car, you could measure the output of the oxygen sensor and see how the mixture is, if you think fuel is the problem. Check your timing, several degrees make a big difference.

[ShelbySean]

I always see this 1984 carb. on eBay.

eBay Motors: Dodge Daytona Shelby Charger Carburetor NEW 1984 (item 290160347117 end time Sep-19-07 18:34:58 PDT)

I asume that it would be a great deal. Apparenty its not a Webber, but its sounds like a better deal, for me anyways.

What do you think?

[xtrempickup]

looks like a good holley, i like the webber a lot better tho

[Wizard]

Don't buy this. Throttle linkage bent, this is crappy steel metal that breaks if try to unbend this. The shafts have greenish coating ground off, and you never know if carb had rebushed properly?

BTW this is 6520 carb. If car have 5220 you can't use this or vice vesa. But if you are replacing the 6520 with 5220 or weber, this works.

Oh, and when you buy carbs off ebay, assume the gaskets, diaphgrams etc are shot. Even new. They go bad even new in long storage for years and good time to assess the condition of carb. Saves you the grief.

Cheers, Wizard