Which Weber carb is direct bolt-on?

[Berlinwall5985]

I'm sorry, I did a search and it seems like there are two choice, the weber 38's and the weber 32/36 I believe. What exact carb do I need to to be direct replacement (no linkage modification) for the holley carb on there now and get some more performance out of it? Also, I'm looking at a dual carb setupas well and it appears to be dual downdraft setup from direct connection and does anyone know if that's a direct bolt on, and/or what I would need to make this work (linkage modification, cut hole in the hood, etc.) Thanks for you help!

[xtrempickup]

i had a Weber on mine stock before i swapped in the factory replacement Holley. apparently the weber was what came on the motor in 84 originally. its not a sidedraft or anything, just factory looking carb.

[Berlinwall5985]

It's a holley on there right now and I have about 3 spares in the trunk but I have no idea what each one is. Everyone says Webers are the best and the holley is a cheap copy of the weber from what I understand.

[Cooter]

There is no 'direct swap' weber carb. the closest one to stock is the 32/36 DFEV, but there still is modifications required to the linkage to get it to work, not that much, but some

[Berlinwall5985]

alright...I think I'm gonna do this dual weber setup....they're both downdraft webers so my biggest concern is that they may not fit with the stock hood. So I'm gonna have to try and figure something out with that if they don't. It's not my daily driver, but I just want a decently reliable and powerful setup.

[Wizard]

Well, Still consider the single carb of DFEV 32/36 is viable option. I just finished weber install of this said carb in Tulip today and man, that's impressive. Oh, you DO need linkage reworked from the old holley with most of this exteranous stuff cut off and find a way to locate and weld a ear with hole in it for the fast idle linkage in right spot. The double D hole needs to be slightly filed (flats only and shifted few degrees in one direction to position the linkage just so, I didn't but not that biggie). And my caravan setup is A413 transmission BTW, that why the need for this linkage mod so I can keep kickdown stuff working.

excerpt from my other post:

Second part: Weber carburetor installed! All I can say is IMPRESSIVE!

Big FAT torque in the sweet 2.2's spot. Solved other issues as well (idle that goes "PRRBRBRT!!" in gear, hammering the transmission when shifted manually at rest in idle) etc. Oh not to mention: MPG. Time will tell! A "functional" holley carb is a DUMP, no adjusting and 3 rebuilds couldn't fix issues I had, mainly the MPG was really AWFUL (consistent 13mpg).

Cheers, Wizard

[Berlinwall5985]

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Originally Posted by Wizard Well, Still consider the single carb of DFEV 32/36 is viable option. I just finished weber install of this said carb in Tulip today and man, that's impressive. Oh, you DO need linkage reworked from the old holley with most of this exteranous stuff cut off and find a way to locate and weld a ear with hole in it for the fast idle linkage in right spot. The double D hole needs to be slightly filed (flats only and shifted few degrees in one direction to position the linkage just so, I didn't but not that biggie). And my caravan setup is A413 transmission BTW, that why the need for this linkage mod so I can keep kickdown stuff working. excerpt from my other post: Second part: Weber carburetor installed! All I can say is IMPRESSIVE! Big FAT torque in the sweet 2.2's spot. Solved other issues as well (idle that goes "PRRBRBRT!!" in gear, hammering the transmission when shifted manually at rest in idle) etc. Oh not to mention: MPG. Time will tell! A "functional" holley carb is a DUMP, no adjusting and 3 rebuilds couldn't fix issues I had, mainly the MPG was really AWFUL (consistent 13mpg). Cheers, Wizard

Do you happen to have a picture of what you did to the linkage? I'm close to convincing myself to just start with a single weber carb and learn my way up to dual carb. I'm new to carbs. My whole life I've worked on fuel injected engines so this whole carb thing is weird for me. If I can see a picture of the modified linkage, I probably can figure this out. Learn on a single carb car and then I'll work myself up to that dual sidedraft carb setup from pierce manifold eventually.

[Berlinwall5985]

Oh, and one more question, do you have to use the stock intake or can i just get an air filter to sit on top of the carb? Or does that create fitment problems with the hood? I'd like to just drop a filter on the top and be done with it.

[Wizard]

Stock air cleaner housing fits perfectly, use the stock thick cushiony gasket. I use pair of M6 40mm long bolts and washers to secure the air cleaner to it, unless you could find M6 40mm long studs and blue loctite them in and use M6 wing nuts.

Gonna take a picture of that set up in Tulip's. Too bad my fun with awesome weber carb was over in a day because A413 transmission made a loud CRACK-MUNCH!
Then something fell into differential works that I could barely move half a inch or few in other opposite direction. Good thing I have CAA membership.

Weber carb have to do nothing with this, even with current holley 5220 (doing horrible 13 mpg thing and few issues), still would snap something in the transmission. Basically bad timing.

Through, I'm throughly impressed with weber. That made me wonder on earth why I didn't do this eariler.

Second, this will take awhile till I have everything to swap over to manual, what's more, in middle of winter. So I'm reduced to taking drafty, freezing buses that takes a hour back and forth.

Cheers, Wizard

[looneytuner]

"Gonna take a picture of that set up in Tulip's. Too bad my fun with awesome weber carb was over in a day because A413 transmission made a loud CRACK-MUNCH!
Then something fell into differential works that I could barely move half a inch or few in other opposite direction. Good thing I have CAA membership"

The diff pin slipped out. You are still going to face this on manuals unless you install the ears that bolt up.
There are several transmission sites with this info. I think they are for the 413s but it's the same dif in all.

[Wizard]

Hmm. This is all conjecture right now. Have to pull transmission out. Not right away as I want to do it in a day when I have my manual ready to go in. The issue is get the new clutch disc (springs wore a grooves in them), and grind the flywheel (no grooves and minimal wear).

There is no fluids leaking out or cracks or something so I still wonder.

Cheers, Wizard

[Berlinwall5985]

Anyone who's done this weber setup, is there any way someone can post a pic of what the linkage is supposed to look like once modified? Also, do I have to do anything else (like electronic issues with the computer, ignition, etc) or can I just swap carb for carb and it'll work?

[looneytuner]

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Originally Posted by Berlinwall5985 Anyone who's done this weber setup, is there any way someone can post a pic of what the linkage is supposed to look like once modified? Also, do I have to do anything else (like electronic issues with the computer, ignition, etc) or can I just swap carb for carb and it'll work?

+1 My mechanic is going to do it also on an 83 1/2 something or other that is driving him crazy.

[82charger2.2]

Berlin, would you rather buy one of the Webers from me instead? I'll sell it and the rebuild kit with it. Let me know.

[Wizard]

82Charger2.2, Keep in mind guy needs the mopar style linkage installed with custom choke linkage or sourced from weber reseller for this little choke linkage. I'll get a picture of mine, have to wait till monday night as Tulip's is at my work parking lot.

The steel in the chrysler linkage taken from junk carb is dead hard, use small diamond file to size it, Just the flats mind, oh, the saw won't cut, I used cut off disk to slice off all the chrysler's linkage's non-necessary bits. The diameter of the shaft is right on, just the flats are closer together by under 1/16. Doesn't take long to file through this much, say 1/2 hour or so. The choke hole for choke linkage on that original linkage is in wrong spot as well so this got sliced off. Remember, keep position of linkage right so choke fast idle rpm is high enough otherwise
get 1mm longer screw in place of fast-idle screw.

Cheers, Wizard