85 GLH Information/Advise

[Blue85GLH]

The mexican exhaust manifold flows almost as good as a header. I've had the Hooker AND the Hedman on the car, they both snapped in less than six months. Got tired of fixing and replacing. The mexican is cast, so it won't flex. It has lasted almost ten years.

I went TBI for efficiancy and cold weather starting. Ported, knife edged, manifold matched etc to get the most out of it. The car was originally carbed, and it was a bitch below 10 to start. I drove it daily, so I had to.

The auto was for autocrossing, just stomp and steer. I seldom lost. (Never?) Everyone always struggled with those Lbody shifters, and lost .5 to 1 second in an autoX. But this auto is built for the grunt.

There is more potential in the car, but it is more than 90 percent of what you can do to a TBI and drive daily. YOu've already got more horse than a stock T1, and you'r doing it on pump gas in a TBI car.

If you want to change the final drive ratio, look for the transfer gears under the cover on the drivers side, and chaneg them to either an Acclaim, or a Lancer.

The dual wbber setup is sweet, but very finicky and pricey. I passed on one some years ago when the Chrysler engineer who had them told me not to. He was looking for just under $1800 ten years a go. TO do this you'd have to experiment with cams, timing and fuel pumps.

Unless you want to spend another 2k or so, the car is what it is. TBI spacer, under drive pulley, maybe a later manifold and injectors off a flexfuel vehicle with a minivan throttle body.

It al depends on what kind of speed you want. Fast and stright, or curvy and scary. To go straight, stomp, hangon, and spend money. To make curves, takes money and skill. You won't find another Mopar in an AutoX that can keep up with you.

As for going stright, Larry will kick all of our butts.

[moparfwdsleeper]

:PI want the best of both worlds LOL. The car handles AMAZINGLY! But I think there is alittle more to get out of the TBI setup, imma add an adjustable cam sprocket, play with some timing degree's, underdrive pulley, and possibly a cam to see what it will let loose.

The 568 was hoping for alittle more fuel sipping help LOL. And I miss having a 5speed Still just a thought and one that will take some time to think threw.

The cat im hoping to have replaced with a straight pipe(hoping this weekend), im thinking you was right about it probably being long gone lol.

BTW I agree 110% that Larry's Shadow will take us on and put a hole in the remains of his kill LMAO.

[1983Rampage]

LOL, coming from the man himself that built the blue bastard, hell, that is kinda catchy. But I was thinking he told me something about the mexican manifold. I know for the spacer, I can remember somebody selling one either on ebay or here for the TBI and somebody was wanting a one for the Turbo, but he didn't make them. But for the other parts go to the local pick and pull.

[1983Rampage]

Oh, and I agree with the fact that Larry's Shadow would swamp almost anyone around here with the turbo 2.2 dodges. Hell, how could he not beat us when he is driving a 400 hp DOHC hybrid 2.2L with a supra tranny behind it and a bullet proof rear end. In truth, I am jealous. LOL, but a beautiful car, and I am not the biggest fan of the Shadows and Sundances.

[moparfwdsleeper]

Craig(24kilo) offered to make me a spacer, I just need to go to the yard and buy a TBI TB(lol) so he can get the measurements. But with the one on there being ported out I think id have to hand him that one so he can match the port on the spacer with the port on the TB... That makes sense right? Or am I just that exhausted?

[moparfwdsleeper]

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Originally Posted by 1983Rampage I am not the biggest fan of the Shadows and Sundances.

Dude... OUCH!

[1983Rampage]

OK, Clayton, what do I drive. And what do I know almost freakishly too much about. LOL, I can tell you one thing, it ain't no P-Body. It is the beautiful little L-bodies and their addiction to speed.

[1983Rampage]

But I would take a P-body over some of the bigger cars, atleast they are light and have a lot of potential as well.

[ZachT]

hmm, what about a NA 16v 2.2, with TBI

that would be pretty cool, like a cosworth or something. man some of those babys really lay out some power

[Blue85GLH]

Actually, I seem to rememebr Larry being rather the coward when I'd challenge him to a race that wasn't straight. I bet he can turn even worse now.

Clayton, any changes you make will need to take into account "driveability". The carb setup mentioned earlier would add ponies, but daily use might be difficult.

Measure the space above the airfilter to the hood. The tall block may not allow much of a spacer, we are pretty close.

[Zed]

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Originally Posted by moparfwdsleeper Im not really interested in swapping the electronics, then manifold, then carb setup.. I need this to have EVERY little down time.

Well Clay, then maybe you should add TBI Spacer
Header, 2.5" exhaust(mandrel bent), muffler,
8mm MSD ignition wires, and Blaster 2 coil

[1983Rampage]

it would probably be even more of a tight fit in an Omni, hell, I know that the T3 setup in those things have to have a special intake manifold to work. Now an intake manifold that would have a nice run like the old high rise intakes on the old V8's, maybe that would work, and make even more power. Would be very interesting to see, but a PITA to do.

[ZachT]

the only point about a 16v NA 2.2, it could make some awesome power, better than an 8v head. with NA, a good cylinder head rocks, hands down, yeah along with getting the air in and out.

come on take this guy for example 2.0L and 250 hp, very very respectible, thats getting up there with some good running T2 cars

Video: 1929 Ford Model A With 250 HP Cosworth Rally Engine

[moparfwdsleeper]

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Originally Posted by Blue85GLH Actually, I seem to rememebr Larry being rather the coward when I'd challenge him to a race that wasn't straight. I bet he can turn even worse now. Clayton, any changes you make will need to take into account "driveability". The carb setup mentioned earlier would add ponies, but daily use might be difficult. Measure the space above the airfilter to the hood. The tall block may not allow much of a spacer, we are pretty close.

She is staying TBI, as reason's you've mentioned. I believe Tim may be correct about a vacuum leak so that will be first to look at on the list. I bumped the idle up some as you suggested and it helped with starting in the cold There is a hicup when I go to shut her off(im thinking timing maybe?) I will have to redo that when I swap in the adjustable cam sprocket to get a *hopefully* perfect mark I don't plan on a trans swap until I see how I do in autocrossing and if it is a sport I can get into and of course afford(i don't wanna tear her up cause of ignorance to playing and not being able to do proper maintance, brakes, tires). The tranny idea came into play with me missing that *feel* and hoping for alittle better gas mileage. The trans that is in there ROCKS! it will not let them tires cut loose for nothing lol(i had to try). You built an awesome car, I really just want to enhance(i guess that is a proper term) what is already done to it. spacer, underdrive, etc.

A 16V N/A would be neat, but that is alot of done time.

As for the pistons your guess is as good as mine lol but im thinking standard 2.5

[ZachT]

hey clayton, whats all done with the glh suspension? i just keep hearing how well it handles.

reason asking is- i just drove to cheyenne wy (like 1.5 hrs) and got a 1 1/8 in sway bar (front), 1 inch swaybar (rear, obviously) and some front MP autocross springs.
yes all for 75 bucks, sweet!!!!!


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thinking about using my stock struts up front (for now) they were replaced by prev owner and have about 25k on them.