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Old 06-15-2005, 03:53 PM   #1
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Hi all. I am going to be swapping out my carbed 2.2.in my Turismo..now my wifes 94 shadow has a crapped out unibody so i was thinking of using her 2.2 engine and just swapping over my intake and exaust manifolds...sensors that my 84 Turismo uses and calling it a day.....Does anyone know of any other major problems I might face?.also what do I need to do as far as the 6 bolt pat flywheel and the 8 bolt ........? thanks .
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Hi all. I am going to be swapping out my carbed 2.2.in my Turismo..now my wifes 94 shadow has a crapped out unibody so i was thinking of using her 2.2 engine and just swapping over my intake and exaust manifolds...sensors that my 84 Turismo uses and calling it a day.....Does anyone know of any other major problems I might face?.also what do I need to do as far as the 6 bolt pat flywheel and the 8 bolt ........? thanks .

for starters, you'll have to run an electric fuel pump because the 94 doesn't have any place for the mechanical 1 from the 84. you'll have to run the
84 w/pump housing with the 94 block for hose routing. good luck at finding
a dual pattern 8- bolt flywheel. i would look at some early 86 rides for that.
otherwise you could use the 94 tranny and find 89-90 omni hubs. those should work ok.
unless i forgot something, that should be about it.
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What transmissions are represented, automatic or manual? Manual will be easier to handle, automatic, you would be better off with keeping the 94 unit and changing axles.
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good luck at finding a dual pattern 8- bolt flywheel. i would look at some early 86 rides for that. otherwise you could use the 94 tranny and find 89-90 omni hubs. those should work ok. unless i forgot something, that should be about it.
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That problem is only applicable flexplates, not flywheels. I doubt his truck has an automatic. If it does, maybe the donor car is an automatic too and he can just run that tranny with the later Omni axles. If the donor car is an auto and the truck is a stick, he'll need to buy an 8bolt flywheel. You can get those pretty easily at a parts store still. I recommend a turbo one so you can run a stronger clutch.
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what TRUCK?

to install the new engine into your car will be a direct bolt in however you will need to install an aftermarket electric fuel pump as previously stated. additionally if your turismo is a 1985 or older car with an automatic, you will need to use a 1986 or newer automatic transmission or getting more complicated you could use the older transmission if you modify the flexplate or change the front pump and torque converter (this gets a little sticky). if your turismo is manual and the shadow is manual, just make sure the clutch disk has the same input splines. and as you obviously stated you would need to change the intake/exhaust manifold.

I guess the biggest issue is what trans do you have in both cars and what year is the turismo
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I thought a Turismo was a car aka Charger, not a truck?

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Yeah, I skimmed the first message too fast, saw tur.. thought truck.. aka, Rampage or something.. I should know better, I had a Turismo awhile back..
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Ok cool .thanks.....the car is an 84 Plymouth Turismo with a tc3 front clip and all the Direct connection AKA Shelby Ground effect -package,swiss cheese rims rear metal louvers.never winter driven.prob is the the engine has 48.000 klm's and the #1 cylinder only reads 80 on the compression stroke therefor it is blowing smoke in the air cleaner..so instead of of repairing it I was going to swap er.BUT now I think i'll pay to have the engine rebuilt...........thanks all for the input.your all awesome.
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Nows a good time to turbo it,
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ouch.......sounds expensive and the wiring sounds a little hmm confusing. ..But maybe just maybe your right...is there any sites that give you a step by step on how this could be done and which years of cars to use for the transition,,,,,,,thanks Robb
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Hahahhhahaha, sorry, didn't mean to start something up,

Anyhow, if you search on here, should give you the info you need. The hardest part would be the wiring. You would need a complete powertrain out of a turbo model, the one piece intake is the best setup and garrett turbo, basically any turbo car/van. You will need engine, trans and axles. Change the fuel pump, bingo, your done,
OF course, the done part is in jest, it is a lot of work but when your done, you'll have a grin from ear to ear.
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best part is the 84 dash wiring stays. You can just plug in a 84-87 turbo wire harness and use any FI gas tank for an L body. I did a 83 Scamp GT and the dash went bye bye

I also took out a 2.6 carb Mistu POS and replaced it with an 85 turbo drivetrain from a 600 in my mini. Really funny, the new owner keeps taking it to Schucks to buy parts and no body lists a 84 Voyager with a turbo
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REALLY!! I didn't realize the engine harness and bulk head would go together that easy........now, the problem is finding an 84 to 87 Lbody turbo harness.......if I went the routew of turbo I gues I could splice in where neede if I ended up using a different harness example LeBaron or sum.
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REALLY!! I didn't realize the engine harness and bulk head would go together that easy........now, the problem is finding an 84 to 87 Lbody turbo harness.......if I went the routew of turbo I gues I could splice in where neede if I ended up using a different harness example LeBaron or sum.

I am sure if you post on the swap meet, you'll find one quite easily!
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cool I'll search around alittle......................you know I could always just throw a weber and headers on a rebuilt engine and bango..I'm not sure yet I'll have to do some thinking ...thanks.awesome response
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