95 Stratus acts like it is out of gas

[Hemi-K]

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Originally Posted by SoradotHck Nope just 40 dollers (got a low mile one at a j-yard) and i had a scanner hooked up to it already... it pulled no codes

It amazes me how cheap some people can be!!! BUY A NEW PUMP! How many times do you want to take the tank down?

Now as far as the pump being your problem.....chances are its pretty slim. Distributors are major problems on these engines. Don't buy a used one or an aftermarket reman one. THEY DO THE EXACT SAME THING AS THE ONE YOU ALREADY HAVE. You'll have to bite the bullet anf buy a NEW one. Yes its like $1100, but you get the latest updates that FIX the problems with the older distributors.

[89Waredaytona]

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Originally Posted by 22dodge scanner hooked up to the fuel pump? fuel pumps don't do codes.... codes are ONLY for things that effect tail pipe emissions... a dead fuel pump means the car wont run so there are no emissions nor any codes. theres a HUGE difference between reading codes and analyzing data. all my high school kids can get codes... by the time they are done with my class, they can actually problem solve with codes and data WITHOUT throwing parts at the problem...

thats how i learned in school as well, on my tona' with the 3.0, the tps was giving me these same simptons, however on the 2.5 that you have, distributors from what i've been told can be eaten up like candy on these things, prolly because there in a tight spot with no air circulation causing them to overheat and just burn up.... my .02 pennies

-Scott

[turbovanman]

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Originally Posted by Hemi-K It amazes me how cheap some people can be!!! BUY A NEW PUMP! How many times do you want to take the tank down? Now as far as the pump being your problem.....chances are its pretty slim. Distributors are major problems on these engines. Don't buy a used one or an aftermarket reman one. THEY DO THE EXACT SAME THING AS THE ONE YOU ALREADY HAVE. You'll have to bite the bullet anf buy a NEW one. Yes its like $1100, but you get the latest updates that FIX the problems with the older distributors.

I get that all the time also. Had an MPV 3.0L come in. Distributor hooped-common issue with these SUV's with miles. She will not buy a new one. Manage to find a used one. Installed it, ran ok for a couple days. Then was complaining of it running weird. After spending a couple hours on it, used dist was bad, go figure. I charged her the 2 hours as I had already warned her to get a new/rebuilt one but she still wanted a used one. Find another one, the last one available and warned her again, if this is bad, your on your own or buying a new one. haven't seen her in 6 months.

[jdawg]

dude I checked tsb's related to your concern, you are gonna have to get codes. One is for egr, one is just a flash computer etc.. That car is obd2, you WILL get a code for driveability not just emissions stuff. By the way that distributor is $984 list.

[SoradotHck]

Well i got a fuel pressure check done on it... it was between 40-60 PSI and i think i narrowed the problem down to it not getting a spark..... OMG 1,000 DOLLERS FOR A DISTRUBUTER!!! well holy crap this sucks (What happened was i got it to the shop and i started it after the pressure check was done we turned it off and tryed to start it back up and it want to start and we checked it to see if it had a spark and it didnt... we let it sit for abot 1 hr and it started fine so he pulled a spark plig wire out and held it up to a bolt and it sparked a few times and then it stoped and the engine died...) i hope that information helps

[SoradotHck]

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Originally Posted by Hemi-K It amazes me how cheap some people can be!!! BUY A NEW PUMP! How many times do you want to take the tank down? Now as far as the pump being your problem.....chances are its pretty slim. Distributors are major problems on these engines. Don't buy a used one or an aftermarket reman one. THEY DO THE EXACT SAME THING AS THE ONE YOU ALREADY HAVE. You'll have to bite the bullet anf buy a NEW one. Yes its like $1100, but you get the latest updates that FIX the problems with the older distributors.

oh you have to be cheap when you are 17 and have no job and the pump has low miles on it (Like 20K)

[jdawg]

that doesnt mean it IS the distributor, there are alot of things in that engine that control spark, computer, umm not sure if it has a cam sensor, lot more than that, could just be the rotor

[Hemi-K]

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Originally Posted by SoradotHck Well i got a fuel pressure check done on it... it was between 40-60 PSI and i think i narrowed the problem down to it not getting a spark..... OMG 1,000 DOLLERS FOR A DISTRUBUTER!!! well holy crap this sucks (What happened was i got it to the shop and i started it after the pressure check was done we turned it off and tryed to start it back up and it want to start and we checked it to see if it had a spark and it didnt... we let it sit for abot 1 hr and it started fine so he pulled a spark plig wire out and held it up to a bolt and it sparked a few times and then it stoped and the engine died...) i hope that information helps

Yep, distributor.

[Hemi-K]

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Originally Posted by SoradotHck oh you have to be cheap when you are 17 and have no job and the pump has low miles on it (Like 20K)

17 and NO JOB????

Man when I was your age, I was going to school and working 2 jobs.....

[Hemi-K]

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Originally Posted by jdawg that doesnt mean it IS the distributor, there are alot of things in that engine that control spark, computer, umm not sure if it has a cam sensor, lot more than that, could just be the rotor

The exact thing that he says is happening to his car is what happens when the distributors fail on these 2.5L engines. The cam sensor is the distributor. When they heat up they stop working. Let them cool down, you get your spark back.....for a short period of time. It gets worse and worse as time goes on, eventually to the point where it wont have any spark at all anytime.

[22dodge]

Only 2 jobs... man, when I was 17 I worked my butt off to get to college.. I worked at a ford dealer washing cars until I was 18 then became a mechanic and got a job with UPS (health insurance, and big money for a part time job), I also worked at McD's, delivered newspapers for 3 companies, cut lawn etc. during the summer I worked no less than 80hrs/ week and durning school 40 hours between 2 jobs (not counting paper delivery, lawn mowing, snow shoveling, etc.... I got thru college w/o a loan and graduated with over 3k in the bank... mommy and daddy didn't hand me anything.. not even my first car.

[Hemi-K]

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Originally Posted by 22dodge Only 2 jobs... man, when I was 17 I worked my butt off to get to college.. I worked at a ford dealer washing cars until I was 18 then became a mechanic and got a job with UPS (health insurance, and big money for a part time job), I also worked at McD's, delivered newspapers for 3 companies, cut lawn etc. during the summer I worked no less than 80hrs/ week and durning school 40 hours between 2 jobs (not counting paper delivery, lawn mowing, snow shoveling, etc.... I got thru college w/o a load and graduated with over 3k in the bank... mommy and daddy didn't hand me anything.. not even my first car.

Now thats what I'm talking about. This new generation has no concept of what work is. There's this kid at work....18 maybe.....laziest person I've ever met. Expects all the work to be handed to him, and expects it to be easy......

[SoradotHck]

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Originally Posted by 22dodge Only 2 jobs... man, when I was 17 I worked my butt off to get to college.. I worked at a ford dealer washing cars until I was 18 then became a mechanic and got a job with UPS (health insurance, and big money for a part time job), I also worked at McD's, delivered newspapers for 3 companies, cut lawn etc. during the summer I worked no less than 80hrs/ week and durning school 40 hours between 2 jobs (not counting paper delivery, lawn mowing, snow shoveling, etc.... I got thru college w/o a loan and graduated with over 3k in the bank... mommy and daddy didn't hand me anything.. not even my first car.

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Originally Posted by Hemi-K 17 and NO JOB???? Man when I was your age, I was going to school and working 2 jobs.....

Just jobless because of this car it broke down on me and i cannot walk 35 miles to work so i had to quit.... i am looking for a job at UPS right now and hopfully i will get one (IT GETS SO FRICKEN BORING WITHOUT A JOB) But i gotta have the car fixed inorder to drive there ( I paid for this stratus and my last car my dodge omni)... My parents didnt spend a cent on my cars so i am just in your position with not getting handed a car and when it breaks down i have to pay to get it fixed and insurance ... Oh this sucks i only got 200 dollers of my emerg. fund for car repairs left in the bank

[22dodge]

I bought my first car when I was 15 and still own it today (1965 mustang 2+2) paid $2000 cash for it in 1980 dollars... I was able to buy it because I worked my butt off... I cut lawns, helped neighbors, delivered newspapers on my bike thru the snow and all... covered over 10 miles a day on my bike... delivered the morning paper before school up every day at 5 am 7 days a week... then when I got home off the bus, delivered 2 night papers... I owned the monopoly on newspaper delivery (6 years solid). At 16 I bought my first major peice of shop equipment (engine hoist). the first week I had it a neighbor wanted me to help him r&r the engine in his ford van.. well what he paid me for helping him covered the cost of my hoist... I still own this hoist today and everytime I use it, it's making me $$$$. Sounds more like making excuses than solving your problem. first why does a 17 year old kid need such a cool styling car? I had my mustang but for my daily driver I bought a 1975 plymouth Valiant with a 225 slant six, 4 door, army green (I bought it at a gov auction when I was 16) this car lasted me thru highschool and college. sure wasn't a chick magnet but it's the car I learned how to rebuild automatic transmissions (I rebuilt it 5 times in one month back when it was cool to leave posi marks all over the road). @ 16, out of necessity, I could pull the trans, replace all the burned up clutches and re-install within 5 hours... not bad since we didn't have a garage in the middle of wisconsin winter.

The point is, if you really wanted to fix your car, you would find a way to earn the money to do so.

[Hemi-K]

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Originally Posted by 22dodge Sounds more like making excuses than solving your problem. first why does a 17 year old kid need such a cool styling car? The point is, if you really wanted to fix your car, you would find a way to earn the money to do so.

Exactly!