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08-04-2005, 06:08 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cold Lake, AB
My Ride: '85 GLH
Engine: 2.2L
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Originally Posted by minichopper6hp
you guys are all idiots, you dont understand that the marine bilge pumps run 250 cfm, the rate of the 2.2 @ 6500 rpm. Theoretically, it should work, my question is, has anyone done it!?
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What, are you on crack?
Go ahead, buy your little electric fan, plumb it into whatever part of your car tickles your fancy, then when you're done, it's melted and you've received no benefit from it, come back here with your tail between your legs and beg for mercy.
As other people have posted, it will not work. This is not opinion on their behalf, it is fact.
Go ahead, waste your time, money and credibility with an electric fan more suited to interior temperature management.
Later,
Craig
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08-04-2005, 09:43 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
My Ride: 91 Spirit,87 ShelbyZ
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LOL....if we dont understand what you are trying to say....EXPLAIN IT MORE CLEARLY!!!
if you think we are just all of bunch of morons who have no clue about making cars go fast......you can go someplace else
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08-04-2005, 10:08 PM
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Authorized TD Vendor
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Salina, KS
My Ride: 91 Spirit R/T
Engine: 2.2 TIII
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I was going to answer you question, but since we are all idiots. The only idiot is you, exhaust cfm will vary with rpm as well as boost pressure, so your question cant be answered.
Furhtermore us idiots understand its primarily the expansion of the hot exhaust that drives the turbine, not the air pushing the blade. If you try to pump cooler air into the turbine, you will slow spool and mess up flow.
So before you come onto a forum with a stupid idea, you need to do a bit of reading on turbocharger basics, we are a tight nit group of guys and wont tolorate some tard with a bad idea who is needing info, calling us idiots. If you so damn smart you wouldnt need our help. Now go back to your imports....
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08-04-2005, 11:23 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Saskatchewan
My Ride: 1987 Duster
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Originally Posted by minichopper6hp
w/e im just ending this conversation with you guys... my intellegence level is obviously too high for you to comprehend
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hahaha oh man you can't be serious
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08-05-2005, 12:17 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
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I think he's suggesting using that electric motor INSTEAD of the car exhaust to run the turbocharger. I'm not quite sure why he's using the air from a fan to drive the compressor to force air into the motor, it would save money just to skip the turbo and blow the air right into the motor if this setup worked...
However, it simply won't work because the weight of the turbocharger will cause the plastic housing of the electric motor to crack and fail quickly.
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Originally Posted by mopar2ya
I was going to answer you question, but since we are all idiots. The only idiot is you, exhaust cfm will vary with rpm as well as boost pressure, so your question cant be answered.
Furhtermore us idiots understand its primarily the expansion of the hot exhaust that drives the turbine, not the air pushing the blade. If you try to pump cooler air into the turbine, you will slow spool and mess up flow.
So before you come onto a forum with a stupid idea, you need to do a bit of reading on turbocharger basics, we are a tight nit group of guys and wont tolorate some tard with a bad idea who is needing info, calling us idiots. If you so damn smart you wouldnt need our help. Now go back to your imports....
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08-05-2005, 03:12 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: a box under the stairs in the corner of the basement of the house half a block down the street from jerry's bait shop...you know the place!
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Originally Posted by mopar2ya
I was going to answer you question, but since we are all idiots. The only idiot is you, exhaust cfm will vary with rpm as well as boost pressure, so your question cant be answered.
Furhtermore us idiots understand its primarily the expansion of the hot exhaust that drives the turbine, not the air pushing the blade. If you try to pump cooler air into the turbine, you will slow spool and mess up flow.
So before you come onto a forum with a stupid idea, you need to do a bit of reading on turbocharger basics, we are a tight nit group of guys and wont tolorate some tard with a bad idea who is needing info, calling us idiots. If you so damn smart you wouldnt need our help. Now go back to your imports....
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DON'T HOLD BACK WALLACE!!! TELL HIM HOW YOU REALLY FEEL!!!!!! LOL
tony
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08-05-2005, 05:30 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Salem, NH
My Ride: 84 600 convertible
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Hmmmmm.......he's awfully quiet now isn't he?
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08-05-2005, 05:33 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Salem, NH
My Ride: 84 600 convertible
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Originally Posted by RPMurph
if you think we are just all of bunch of morons who have no clue about making cars go fast......you can go someplace else
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
Hmm...let's recap here......
A question about an idea that clearly won't work due to simple physics was asked, people give answers stating so, person who asks question then insults everyone here, then dissappears completely.
Yep, sounds like a moron to me.......
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08-05-2005, 05:41 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Salem, NH
My Ride: 84 600 convertible
Engine: 2.2 T1
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Originally Posted by minichopper6hp
no, no i dont think you get it,
im taking a turbo alone and hooking one of those marine air pumps to the exhaust side of the turbo; the air from the fan will act like exhaust gas and spin the turbo to boost the engine
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I just had to post this again.......it makes no sense why anyone would want to do this. You already have a FREE source of energy to drive the turbine in the turbo why would anyone hook up a low powered fan to the turbine inlet to drive it? Like was stated before, exhaust PULSES drive the turbine, not air flow.
Someone needs to open a textbook on how turbos work before they post stupid ideas like this on our forum. Again, its just simple physics. Obviously he failed that class in high school....... 
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08-05-2005, 07:47 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
My Ride: 91 Spirit,87 ShelbyZ
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and like someone stated before....why not just hook the pump up to you intake? the turbo charger isnt going to be 100%+ efficent with your mentioned setup and will not cause more air to flow that you initially started with
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08-07-2005, 04:26 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Salem, NH
My Ride: 84 600 convertible
Engine: 2.2 T1
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08-07-2005, 06:09 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Gresham, Oregon
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someday I'm going to take a picture of those huge air blowers they have for drying cars at the end of the car wash for when people start threads like these. Guys, its pretty clear we just don't understand that converting energy from the crank, into an alternator, into a $50 fan, into the turbine side of the turbo and then to the compressor side is significantly more efficiant, easier, and cheaper than using the wasted heat energy of the exhuast to spin it in the first place. *sigh*
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