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Old 08-02-2005, 07:03 PM   #1
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was wondering if anyone knows the cfm on the exhaust of a 2.2?
thinking of an idea to take an electric supercharger off ebay and hooking to the exhaust side of the turbo and letting the compressor side boost, using the stock wastegate , thanx
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:25 PM   #2
 
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was wondering if anyone knows the cfm on the exhaust of a 2.2?
thinking of an idea to take an electric supercharger off ebay and hooking to the exhaust side of the turbo and letting the compressor side boost, using the stock wastegate , thanx

Simple physics dictate that this idea just wont work. All the "electric supercharger" will do is melt from the extreme heat.

BTW.....those things that they sell on ebay are generally known as scams...."electric superchargers" just plain don't work. You'd get about the same HP if you figured out to plumb in your common household con-air hair dryer. Read that as no gains whatsoever.
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:52 AM   #3
 
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:06 PM   #4
 
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what exactly are you trying to accomplish by putting it AFTER the turbo?
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:09 PM   #5
 
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what exactly are you trying to accomplish by putting it AFTER the turbo?
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think of the possibilities, you could run the engine backwards, or help to blow the exhaust out depending which way you point the $5 plastic electric fan.

or have the exhaust turning the motor, no more need for an alternator! think the HP gains!
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:55 PM   #6
 
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no, no i dont think you get it,
im taking a turbo alone and hooking one of those marine air pumps to the exhaust side of the turbo; the air from the fan will act like exhaust gas and spin the turbo to boost the engine
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no i dont think you get it. its not going to work.

let me get this straight, you want to electrically run a fan, that forces air through the turbo exhaust turbine which you think will make boost on the compressor side?

Considering that there will be so much energy lost in a setup like that it will never work. basically you are taking a fan, and making a less efficient fan out of it! lol why didnt we all think of that. go home kid.
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Old 08-03-2005, 04:11 PM   #8
 
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Its not going to work. The amount of pressure and volume it takes to boost a T3, is about 4 times the amount of force that the electric fan can put out when its running off your 12v system in your car. If it was that easy they wouldnt have invented turbos or belt driven superchargers.
Only way it would be possible is to have a diesel over electric setup. Have a 6.5 Turbo chevy mounted sideways in the back of your omni, with a generator bolted to the belhousing. Run your wiring to your wind tunnel fan that you have bolted to the turbine housing, it could work.

If you still think its going to work, go buy a honda...
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...QQcmdZViewItem

hmm is this for real, sure looks like it...

looks like a starter mounted on there.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...QQcmdZViewItem

hmm is this for real, sure looks like it...

looks like a starter mounted on there.

Looks like a moron about to get taken by some lowlife on ebay if you ask me......

Why don't we all let this thread die a quick death as we all know the same thing.......IT DOESN'T WORK!

thank you, off soapbox now.....
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I think it's a FANTASTIC idea and you should get not one but 2.. use one one the exhaust side and one on the intake side... then you got something.. throw in some magnets on the fuel line, slick 50, split fire spark plugs and you'll be the envy at the trailer park.
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Old 08-03-2005, 07:57 PM   #12
 
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The the idea of an electric turbo.....and this thread.


Pinwheel PINWHEEL spinnig around, look at this pinwheel and see what i found...


Pinwheel PINWHEEL pretty and bright, sing me good morning and sing me GOODNIGHT!!!!!!
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you guys are all idiots, you dont understand that the marine bilge pumps run 250 cfm, the rate of the 2.2 @ 6500 rpm. Theoretically, it should work, my question is, has anyone done it!?
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my first guess is that the 250 cfm figure is NOT UNDER BOOST. and we all know how long it would take to spool from 0-4psi infinately. infact, without those first 4psi, i doubt any of us would ever get to 5. give it up.
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Old 08-03-2005, 11:48 PM   #15
 
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you guys are all idiots, you dont understand that the marine bilge pumps run 250 cfm, the rate of the 2.2 @ 6500 rpm. Theoretically, it should work, my question is, has anyone done it!?
Its not going to work!
I didnt even bother reading what a marine pump is. Why? because if it is electric powered, then there is no way of effieciently running this thing to benefit from it. Only way would be like i said above, a 6.5l diesel running a generator, or 25 car batteries in the trunk. It doesnt work, they would have used you design instead of installing turbochargers on these cars if it was practical.
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