supercharged turbo

[yarcli52]

In that case, knowing that the stock log manifold are completely out of the question, what type of manifolds should be used for both the intake and exhaust on twincharged systems?

[frostburner]

custom

[yarcli52]

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Originally Posted by frostburner custom

This I know, but custom as in how? I've read donovan's site, can I relate twincharging to all of his information?

[tkelly27]

We'd need more information. I've got an eaton M90 that I could hook up to use the stock manifolds along with a T3 turbo if I so chose. It would be ugly and hard, but it could be done. Do you all really hate spool up that much that you are entertaining this idea? Or do you just wanna be unique? My opinion on the subject, turbo into supercharger supercharger into IC, IC into throttle body. Less chance for leaks, no worries about pressure equalization, etc.

If you kept the stock manifolds, you'd wanna put the SC where the AC normally goes. There really is no other place for it at that point. You're really not going to be getting ultimate HP outta something like this, so ported stock manifolds will probably work fine. Stock manifolds being blow through. Log sux teh bawlz.

This might be a cool project if you just happened to have a M60 and a diesel truck turbo laying around, but otherwise you'll probably be a lot happier playing with wheels and housings on a built turbo setup to see how low you could get the spool up. Boost at 3.5k isn't as bad as it sounds

[yarcli52]

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Originally Posted by tkelly27 It would be ugly and hard, but it could be done. Do you all really hate spool up that much that you are entertaining this idea?

Hard? Yes. Ugly? Depends on how much effort you put into the thought process. Why not entertain the idea?

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Originally Posted by tkelly27 ...you'd wanna put the SC where the AC normally goes. There really is no other place for it at that point. You're really not going to be getting ultimate HP outta something like this...

Supercharger location has already been brought up earlier in the thread. Have you ever pulled off this setup? From what I've seen, no one in the whole TD community has tried it. So what makes ya think some good HP numbers can't be achieved from this setup?

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Originally Posted by tkelly27 Boost at 3.5k isn't as bad as it sounds

Yet can also be a little bit of a pain on your track times. These cars don't have a high rev limit. Granted, a twincharged setup would need a lot of valve and head work to expand that range. Put together an efficient twincharged setup and it will be one badass ride.

[The Pope]

Vortec has a long shaft SC that can go to the trans side of the engine, only need room for a pulley.

As for building the Centrifical SC is best as it compress's air like a turbo for the highest compounded pressure. But the SC will come in much sooner than a turbo. So you could run a Honda or Ford type SC setup and a huge turbo the engine normally couldn't spool on its own on the exhaust side mostly. Still the B&M with a factory turbo is still the easy way out. But a GT40 and a Vortec would really get the job done.

[tkelly27]

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Originally Posted by yarcli52 : So what makes ya think some good HP numbers can't be achieved from this setup?

If it was advantageous, from a HP sense, race cars would use it. I'm not saying don't try it. You might be able to get decent numbers, but you'd also get 50-150hp+ more power by not having the SC in there in the first place. Pick your poisen I guess.

It would be pretty sweet, but the FWD cars can't handle the low end they've already got. From what I've heard, 500hp TD's will blow their tires away at 60mph if you tip into them to hard, and you want that torque rise to come sooner at the expense of power on the top end?

Haha, I've got an M90 kicking around, maybe I'll just go ahead and make one to see what it's like (on a V8 of course!).

[aaron7]

There are several "twin-charged" Toyota MR2 first gens out there. Some of them came supercharged and HKS made a turbo kit for them!

[WVRampage]

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Originally Posted by BrassMonkey this is the second time i heard of turbo'd 2 strokes.. how do you give a 2 stroke forced induction (without nitrus)? me and my rc car would love to know.

A detroit diesel had been supercharged and turboed for years and they are 2 stokes.

[t1turbo]

wow, I just read all 7 pages of this thread and iv'e got to say i should have only read the first page! Are we so pressed for time that we just jump to the last page without reading anything and ask the same questions and make the same responses over and over again! ignorance is not bliss. Its a bitch! It took a long time to read all that crap.

[The Pope]

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Originally Posted by t1turbo wow, I just read all 7 pages of this thread and iv'e got to say i should have only read the first page! Are we so pressed for time that we just jump to the last page without reading anything and ask the same questions and make the same responses over and over again! ignorance is not bliss. Its a bitch! It took a long time to read all that crap.

I get the responses email on older threads I am in. Then I go back to see what the last thing I said was, or more. Some times I give the same answer over again if I don't look lol.

This is a long drug out compound boost thread, And you can make a lot more power than you can use on the street with FWD, 1 turbo and an 8v engine. But for fun....

[jl93sundance]

VW has a supercharged turbo motor coming out in Europe soon also

[t1turbo]

what about a electric supercharger

[The Pope]

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Originally Posted by t1turbo what about a electric supercharger

99% are worthless, there is one that is electric that works, it is a roots blower with an electric motor. but the swirl cage fans do nothing

[t1turbo]

how about getting rid of that super hot inconsistent turbo all together and mounting a beautiful header using a roots electric and pulley supercharger on a compound boost system. won't the header gain more over all power if that setup would work?