supercharged turbo

[cook]

You guys must check out this car Its not a turbo dodge its a old opel manta with a 16V volvo 4cyl with a turbo supercharger setup hilmersson racing is the site check out the vids! Someone needs to buildup something like this only in a FWD dodge!

[frostburner]

im actually in the process of doing this to my vnt shadow. I started designing the setup awhile back and have been working on on and off since then. Im planning on running an m62 where the a/c is. I already have the pulley setup I will be using, tensioner bracket, and mounting. I will be using a 60/63 turbo and a custom header that yours truly has designed for these cars. To control everything im using a control unit to do my timing, fuel, and just about everything else a standalone does but for a minute fraction of the price( nice having friends in the industry ) Im hoping to have everything up and running later this year as time permits. I have access to a machine shop and dyno and everything else I need so I have all my bases covered. Should make for a very quick car as my shadow will be stripped and picked clean to reduce weight.

[Cooter]

One word.....PICS!!!!

Okay, one more.....PLEASE!!!!

[GNGUY]

I saw a supercharged turbo setup on an old diesel v8 or v6 truck engine from the
70's. It was a 2 stroke engine to beat all and had a conventional blower setting on it with the turbo setting right on top of the blower. Wildest set up I've ever seen or heard of. I didn't even know there was such a thing as a 2 stroke diesel in the first place.

[Moparmonster]

Nissan built a car like that, but it never saw US shores. It was one liter, yes 60 CID, and came with a supercharger and a turbo. It was called the super turbo something or other.

[krazy4]

some people have done this to their mk1 mr2s.
they refer to it as twin charging.
some people are even doing it to their new mini copper S's.

[BrassMonkey]

this is the second time i heard of turbo'd 2 strokes..
how do you give a 2 stroke forced induction (without nitrus)?
me and my rc car would love to know.

[shad0w2.S_tur80]

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Originally Posted by frostburner im actually in the process of doing this to my vnt shadow. I started designing the setup awhile back and have been working on on and off since then. Im planning on running an m62 where the a/c is. I already have the pulley setup I will be using, tensioner bracket, and mounting. I will be using a 60/63 turbo and a custom header that yours truly has designed for these cars. To control everything im using a control unit to do my timing, fuel, and just about everything else a standalone does but for a minute fraction of the price( nice having friends in the industry ) Im hoping to have everything up and running later this year as time permits. I have access to a machine shop and dyno and everything else I need so I have all my bases covered. Should make for a very quick car as my shadow will be stripped and picked clean to reduce weight.

you gota show us some pics of that that sounds carzy:banaride:
you gota show us

[krazy4]

don't you just love that smilie:banaride: :banaride: :banaride: :banaride:
id highly recommend this setup if you can pull it off.

[frostburner]

A little teaser, here is the twin inlet I will be using and the Monster Bov, and Air filter. I got lazy on drawing the airfilter so i just textured it lol. But everything is drawn 1:1 from what I have sitting in front of me. I also am using a custom dual injector block for the extra needed fuel. Ill post some other stuff later.

[krazy4]

^very nice work

[frostburner]

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Originally Posted by krazy4 ^very nice work

thanks, some more i whipped up just now.

[WLKIVETT]

Slick work, I like.

I have one comment thou, If you have space to rout it, I'd put pants on that filter inlet as opposed to the tee.

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But This ;-)

I do duct and piping all day for industrial applications design and when velocities get over 1500 feet per minute it reduces the pressure drop segnificantly, as much as 1/2 psi. On an automotive application with velocities of 8000-10000 feet per minute (assuming a 3" inlet) pressure drops could be much higher

[frostburner]

^^ yea ive been debating that, i actually have a few more intake ideas up my sleeve to try out, this is just the first one ive drawn up, ill probably work on the setup more tonight, changing my intercooler plans to running twins for relocation purposes.

[The Pope]

as easy as it would be I am supprised no one has tried a compounded turbo. Basically running T2 type injectors into a B&M intake and running a big TB on the blower. Then it is a matter of adding a big turbo to a stock turbo manifold. You can run allot of exhaust side on a compounded setup, stage 4 .84 trim exhaust with a big T4 compressor. Then there is no lag and no worry of spool up, the blower spools the turbo. Then the air going into the blower is compressed. So you have even more boost than the turbo puts out. This means you have more boost PSI than exhaust PSI, so even a bigger cam can be run. Allot of advantages, but haven't seen one yet. And if you happen to have a B&M setup it is a fairly easy thing to make.