Supercharger with A/C?

[HotRodDodge]

Are any of you guys with the superchargers running A/C? i am going to try and keep it but have not got to the point of being able to tell if it can be kept or not.

[PentastarTurbo]

I thought with the supercharger, you just loose power steering?

[Will Martin]

According to the B&M supercharger manual that I have, it states that you have to use the '89 and up "Zip" style power steering pumps, because the older ones are too long/big.

[HotRodDodge]

I am not using power steering, putting a manual rack in at the same time, but the car has A/C and he wants to keep it. So i will just have to wait and see what lines up when i get the head and charger on it.

[Will Martin]

Oh, I see. So it shouldn't be "too" bad I hope. I heard it gets hot in TO in the summertime, gotta keep that A/C! LOL

[iTurbo]

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Originally Posted by Will Martin According to the B&M supercharger manual that I have, it states that you have to use the '89 and up "Zip" style power steering pumps, because the older ones are too long/big.

Actually, it's the 'ZF' power steering pump.

[Will Martin]

"ZF"! I was going off memory. I'm getting old, my memory is fading! LOL BTW, I have one (Supercharger) for sale if you know of anyone looking for one.

-Will

[Shelby-Rampage]

You can use the older "S" pump with the B&M supercharger. I'm running the S on mine right now. I did have to cut out a notch on the end of my S pump's bracket at the adjustment slot to give me a little more adjustment due to the fact I'm not running a tensioner on mine in order to get my belt to fit...it was easy enough to do though.

I think the ZF PS pump may be a better setup though. Being that it has an adjuster built into it may be easier to adjust. The ZF can is shorter too than the S and may allow the use of more tensioner / belt options due to more adjustability in foward movement before making contact with the blower's shaft. I haven't tried one with the blower yet though so I'm not certain of this. I may end up trying one to see if this theory is correct.

Getting back to the original A/C question...I'm not running A/C so I'm not sure what all is in involved there, but the kit's manual mentions the use of A/C and the crank pulley in the kit has an A/C pulley built on it. That, and I have seen these kits used with A/C on L body 2.2's, so I don't see why not.

[Shelby-Rampage]

One more thing on the power steering...Like I said you can run PS with the blower, that is *if* you have the PS pulley adapter that originally came with the kit. If you don't have this PS pulley you'd have to either have it fabricated or ditch the PS and go with manual steering...just thought I'd clarify that.

This is why if you are buying one of these old kits it is important that it be as complete as possible (it saves a lot of headaches later). As a side note, also keep in mind that these kits came with 4 bolt crank pulleys. I believe that MP used to sell adapters for 5 bolts cranks for these kits, but they are long since discontinued.

[PentastarTurbo]

when this kit was available.. there wasnt a 89 style pump.. it wasnt 89 yet..

[Will Martin]

Chris,

There was at least two different "versions" of this kit. It says so in the MP 2.2 Speed Secrets book. It says something like the later version having better internals for smoother operation, or something like that. The supercharger manual that I have says "1989". If you email Steve Mulikin (sp) from the SDML, I believe he has both versions for download on a site somewhere.

[JONYMOPAR]

I Have Been Using My Blower Set Up For Over 14 Years Now, And Should Have Most Of Answers For You.
Yes You Can Run Ac With The Blower Provided You Have All The Parts If You Have The Crank Pulley And Stock Idler Then Your Good To Go.
The Older Power Steering Pump Works Fine, Mine Is A 1985, If You Have The Proper Belt Then Everthing Should Be Ok. I Used A Gates Ko40535 Without The Blower Tensioner.
Those Of You Having Problems With The B&m Idler Set Up You Will Have To Redesign It To Work In A L Body. I Have A Working Design That I Have Given To A Few Of You So Far. I Hope All Is Going Well.

I Hope I Can Be Helpfull To You Guys, It's Nice To Know I'm Not Alone In This Anymore.

[JONYMOPAR]

If My Info Is Correct The Early Version Of This Blower Required A Oil Source From The Engine, The Current Is Just A Oil Filled Gear Box. Someone On The Cardomain Web Site Has A Early Version, I Will Try To Post The Site Location For Those Who Are Interested.

I Also Have 3 Pages On Cardomain Under Plymouth Turismo,2 Are Stock 2.2 One Is For Sale..

[Shelby-Rampage]

Hey Jony, welcome to the list! I'm glad to see you joined us here! Your experience with these blowers will be a great asset to us all. By the way, the job you did on your Supercharged Turismo is outstanding...very nice engine bay!

Using this forum we can all pool our information so other won't have to keep re-inventing the wheel on these things. I think we can make a lot of improvements on this old blower setup by combining our info here.

On the early version of this blower you mention, yes the older ones used the engine’s oil by tapping the oil pan and running a line to the blower. As you know the later B&M variants were self contained and used gear oil in them. I think the later ones were better in that respect due to less chance of engine contamination in the event of a blower failure.

If I recall, Camden made the very early ones, then there was an early B&M version (maybe it was actually a Camden?), followed by the later and last B&M version. I’ve heard the earlier blowers were a little larger than the later ones. The later B&M’s were 66 cubic inches. I can’t recall the early ones size though, anyone know? Anyone have any info on these early variants?