Supercharging 2.2 on Mint 1984 Dodge Rampage! Take a look, I have questions!!!

[Leland]

I have a mint condition, 1984 Dodge Rampage with the 2.2 5speed on the floor. I would like to make the car go a lot faster than it does? Does anyone here have any suggestions that will make this car fast, that are cost effective. Also, anyone here sell the parts, or could hook me up with some.? Thanks. Here she is....
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[Shelby-Rampage]

First off…nice looking Rampage you have there!…very nice!

On making your Rampage go faster, that depends on how much time and money you’re willing to spend.

If you just want to make it a bit quicker and stay in N/A form, I’d start off with a carb change. The Weber 32/36 is a good replacement for the stock carb and it will run much better with it over the stock carb. Or for a little more effort and money you could go with a Weber 38/38. I ran the twin 38 before I installed my supercharger and it was the biggest single improvement I’d made up to that point. I’m still using it now with my blower. I believe a header for the 2.2 is still available from Mopar performance. An aftermarket cam may help some too. There are also aftermarket fuel injection setups available that you could add also.

The next step up is forced induction. You could add a bolt-on supercharger kit on your 2.2, but the problem is the B&M kit is no longer available. You may be able to buy one on Ebay or find one here that someone is selling though. The best thing about one of these kits is it was made to increase the performance of N/A 2.2’s, just like yours. You can keep most of your stock N/A engine components and no wiring changes, computers or fuel injection is needed. You can search the posts in this forum for more info on installing one of these blowers. Or check out the installation manuals for more info :
http://pnw-sdac.org/gallery/view_alb...=Blower-Stufff

Now if you want to go even faster then you could go turbo. This may be your best bet as far as going faster for the least money. You’d need a Shelby Charger parts car to use as a donor. If you could find a fairly intact SC in the junk yard or one that had a rusted frame, then you could remove everything (a lot of work though), wiring, engine, fuel injection, etc. and swap it all over to your Rampage. If you do a search in some of the other forums here you could probably find out what all is exactly involved in this conversion.

Another option would be to add a centrifugal supercharger to your 2.2. I haven’t seen anyone who has actually done this yet though. I’m not sure what all would be involved in this conversion. Maybe someone else here could elaborate more on this.

Anthony
1984 Dodge Rampage Supercharged
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/557514

[Leland]

Anthony,
Good looking rampage you have there! I have taken a look at it on cardomain, and I believe i've looked at it in the past, beautiful. First, I must ask, what have you done to your rampage, i'll start there. And any price quote on what it cost you? Also, where did you obtain your toneau cover? I have been wanting to do that with mine. Was your rampage a stock 1984, or was it the Shelby? Thanks for your information. Leland

[Leland]

Also, how much power does it make? How fast? I am very interested in your cars specs. Thanks. Leland

[DC Turismo]

Hi there, welcome to the board. I, too, have been looking into adding a little bang for the buck under the hood of my L-body. I was able to get a NOS DC supercharger kit for it earlier this year, and eventually, either next summer, or after I'm done with college, take the time to install it and everything. Prior to that, I had purchased a dual carb setup with 2 Weber 32/36 DFAV's on it. I am now selling that if it'd be of any interest to you. Just PM me if so, I have snapped a couple of pics. It'd be another suggestion that I would truly think about. It's a bolt on application as wlel, and one of the main things you have to do is just fab up linkage. It'd look pretty sick, I'll be honest with you.

Either way, Anthony is the guy to see about supercharging info, and this board is full of forums with very knowledgable people that know a thing or two about Chrysler engines. I wish you the best!

[Shelby-Rampage]

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Originally Posted by Leland Anthony, Good looking rampage you have there! I have taken a look at it on cardomain, and I believe i've looked at it in the past, beautiful. First, I must ask, what have you done to your rampage, i'll start there. And any price quote on what it cost you? Also, where did you obtain your toneau cover? I have been wanting to do that with mine. Was your rampage a stock 1984, or was it the Shelby? Thanks for your information. Leland

Thanks for the compliments on my Rampage Leland.

As to what I’ve done to it…did you mean as far as the drivetrain?
I converted it from an auto to a 5 speed first. The bottom end of the motor is still stock. I had the head reworked and installed new valve springs, followers and lifters and an MP 765 cam and I’m using a MP spark control computer. I also added an adjustable cam sprocket too. Then of course I added the B&M supercharger kit and a Weber 38/38 outlaw carb from Redline. Aside from a lot of polishing and cleaning those are the main things so far. The next things I have planned will be a header and exhaust upgrade, a smaller pulley for the blower for a bit more boost and turbo pistons to lower my compression some on account of the higher boost. Maybe a water injection kit too.

As to the cost…most of the cost so far was the blower, which was $1000 and carb about $300+. Cam and related components another $300+. Not cheap, but actually I don’t think its that expensive when you price blower kits for more modern engines that can be several thousand dollars by themselves.

My Rampage started off as a stock 1984 “Prospector” model. It used to be an Alltel company vehicle (telephone company). They had a whole fleet of Rampages here in PA the 1980’s. It was well maintained before I got it and had low miles. After I bought it from them I drove it daily for several years till I decided to customize it.

I had the toneau cover made custom by a local upholster that does a lot of custom auto work. It cost like $200.

On your other question as to how much power it makes…With the blower I’d say it’s currently close to that of a T-I Shelby Charger. Not a drag racer, but not a bad upgrade in a light weight Rampage. It feels like it’s got a V8 when I punch it and it makes lots of wheel spin, which is fun on the streets. Its mainly more of a cruiser / showcar than a racer.

Oh yeah, that dual carb setup that Billy has for sale would be a really cool upgrade on your Rampage too Leland. If you were to add that setup and maybe a header, that’d go a long way towards waking up your stock 2.2.

Anthony

[mech1nxh]

LELAND
cruising the posts and saw your ride, all I can say is the imports will have to try another
30 years to come up with something that good looking.!!!!! and yeah I have a bit of
import experience
damn nice!!!!

[STPVIPER]

Hooker Headers Makes A Header For The N/a 2.2l
Their Number Is: 5707hkr
I Can Get A Hold Of One Direct From Hooker For About $250 Cdn
Takes At Least 4 Weeks To Get Though.

[Cooter]

Hooker
5707HKR (black baked-on paint) 1 1/2 tube, 2 1/2 collector
5707-1HKR (metallic ceramic coated) 1 1/2 tube, 2 1/2 collector

Good ol' Ma Mopar also has two headers available for the 2.2,
P4529466 1 3/4 tube, 2 1/2 collector
P4529461 1 3/8 tube, 2 1/2 collector

The Hooker headers are more expensive than the Mopar ones (IIRC) but are supposedly more durable.

[mpgmike]

How about bolting in a 2.5 block and re-attaching all the go-fast goodies? You could use a 2.5 turbo block and get the lower compression. That longer stroke would give it some impressive grunt, I'm sure.

mpgmike
'88 Shelby Daytona
'91 Spirit R/T
'84 Rampage
'89 Masi TC

[Leland]

You mean a 2.5 from a daytona? I think this would be overall more expensive than just installing all the turbo parts from a 2.2 charger turbo.

[jaysshelby]

leland
where in Ohio are you located? I might be able to help you.

[saw wave analog]

leland if you ever want to sell that car PLEASE email me at reactor303@hotmail.com


beautiful

[Leland]

Thanks for the compliments. I don't think i'll be selling it. It is so hard find these cars, I think they are becoming some of the rarest mopars from 1970's to the 1990's. They only made them 3 years! I was at the yard today looking for a charger donar, or something to get some parts, but nothing.

[DaytonaTurbo87]

It does not need to be a charger, it can be a turbo anything really. Now if you want to convert to turbo, bolting on all the mechanical parts is the easy part. The electronics is the hard part. If you get a shelby charger turbo and try to use it's electronics, you'll have to use it's engine harness and it's dash harness as well. If you, like me, don't want to pull out your dash harness, you can use an engine harness from an 88 or up turbo car, but you'll have to custom wire the bulkhead connector to work with your rampge. So if you go turbo, you better either be prepared to swap engine and dash harness or be very comfortable with doing wiring. No prob for me, but a big prob for some. That's why some prefer the supercharger/carb route. No lengthy electronics swaps. Although the turbo route would be cheaper(substantially), the supercharger would be easier, not like assembeling a lego kit, but less intensive than the turbo.