Why not AWD

[BIVBIV]

Unreliable. won't hold up at big power levels, whatever anyone wants to say. So why is it that you can get a turbocharged 2.2 with a stock 5 speed stretch the spring in the fuel presure regulator to lie to the ECM and have higher presure at the injectors and run 13.0 at 100mph all day? and the big 3.8v6 that was in the AWD minivans didn't break anything but engine mounts. are we going simply on hearsay?
Venture over to MoparMuscles website and watch the videos of the stocl 2.2T running 13.0 pass after pass, Look around and I am sure some of you with more time than I have could find the Mopar Mag that did the 12 sec minivan and published it in a article.
Anyone been to Bristol TN lately, Last time I was there a minivan with all the stuff inside ran 12.7 at 115. left the line without even barking a tire. the most amazing thing was the guy drove it there unloaded family, bbq grill, canopy and seats for 6 people signed it up to race and went heads up to everything that would run him.
I have seen the things go. I just dont have a wrecked one around to get the parts from. If I did I would try it out for sure. And can anyone tell me where I can get the Super 60 Package mother mopar had out years ago. Only thing they still have listed is the computer.

[Phatfoto]

Once again, the limiting factor is the Power Transfer Module (think of it as a transfer case of sorts). And I am not too keen on 3 wheels being driven off one side of the diff.

[GLHSHELBY]

If you are gonna go through this much trouble just make it RWD and slap a late model mds hemi in it from the junkyard.Seems easier to just make it rwd,plus ya can have more fun .

[4Daytonas]

Well I'm not really interested in this concept so I haven't read every post,but Caroll Shelby did this as a prototype with 16 valve 2.2 Daytona back in 83-84.Might check it out.i I have the magazine some where, I saw it not too long ago.Might look it up again if anyone's interested.

[BIVBIV]

OK now I understand the reliability part. So didn't we have some Talons and Eclipses with AWD that made tons of power?
Think any of it would work?
I am dying to make an AWD 1979 OMNI with a 16v Super 60 Powered motor.
And yes Minivans run 12 sec quarter times.


12.61 @ 105 mph
Paul Smith 1989 Dodge Caravan

12.69 @ 106 mph
Terry Ryan's '89 Turbo mini
Niether of these are AWD but figure the weight/time/speed calculatioins and you get 325 and 340 hp repsectfully. woohoo
My Idea of an 1800 lbs OMNI should go in the 10's. Imagine what that will do to the jerks with the pissed off weedeater mufflers on Hondas making nothing but noise. Man this is going to be fun.

[BIVBIV]

And I forogt one thing. I dont have tons of cash but I do work at a machine shop. So fabing some parts wont be that hard for me, just figuring out how to hang it into the car and make it adjustable enough to ne lined up correctly will be the hard part. If I happen to get this done reasonably soon I will make some extra hangers/brackets and such and sell the for cost of materials only. Since you guys are giving me the inspiratoin to do it just because no-one, including me now, thinks it will work very well, if at all. So that said hopefully I will prove me wrong.

[Phatfoto]

You know that ALL the turbovans were only FWD? Nobody doubted the 12s...

[whywoody]

I have followed this thread with interest over time,as an awd turbo van would be great fun.Last fall I removed,then converted an awd auto to 2wd,and fitted it to a 2wd van.This gave me a good look at how the awd system worked.I was also a bit surprised at how 3 wheels are driven from one end of the diff..
I also looked at it all with view to fitting the system to my turbo van,and I believe it would be achievable.I have just purchased another turbo van for it's rust free shell (and it's factory 5sp),and have plans to try the awd conversion with my hybrid engine fitted.
I'll be interested to see how things survive.

[Phatfoto]

Cool. Someone that can give it a whirl.