3.5L manual bellhousing?

[slowquest]

Just wondering if anyone knows if there is a manual bellhousing out there for an LH 3.5L? 1st or 2nd gen, don't matter.

Thanks, Larry

[22dodge]

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Originally Posted by slowquest Just wondering if anyone knows if there is a manual bellhousing out there for an LH 3.5L? 1st or 2nd gen, don't matter. Thanks, Larry

nope!!!! but with some fabrication skills and some basic tools (like a cnc mill) you can build some kinda adapter. but then there's the issue of the crank sensor and trigger wheel

[90TurboVan]

A 5-speed from a 2.7 Stratus R/T will bolt up to a 3.8/3.5/3.3 with one bolt hole not lining up. Bellhousings are not separate for these cars, they're part of the transmission case.

[slowquest]

Shoulda mentioned, this is for a RWD.

How about any flywheels that will bolt up? Just the 2.7 stuff I guess?

[minivanin]

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Originally Posted by 90TurboVan A 5-speed from a 2.7 Stratus R/T will bolt up to a 3.8/3.5/3.3 with one bolt hole not lining up. Bellhousings are not separate for these cars, they're part of the transmission case.

i've heard of this & researched it, & now i wanna see it

3.3/5-speed OMG...what they should have offered to begin with

my next van...i wanna attempt the swap (if i could find the trans)

[phantomrt]

I am pretty sure the pushrod 3.3 and 3.8 bell housings are different than that of the 3.5L. If the 3.8L housing was the same, then the Jeeps are using the 3.8 now in the Wrangler, so a RWD transmission does exist. But like I said, I am pretty sure they are different.

Also, that "1-bolt hole not lining up" is the difference between a cast iron block 3.5L and an aluminum 3.5L engine.

But yes, the 5spd from the 2.7L JR cars will bolt up to a 3.5L and all the holes will line up. But, they're transversely mounted.

[slowquest]

Well, I do know that the LH 3.3L and the LH 3.5L bellhousings are the same. They use the EXACT same trans part number. However, I don't KNOW that the transverse engines have the same pattern, but that seems to be the consensus here. Is the new Wrangler 3.8 the little narrow engine? Same engine as the Imperials and Caravans? That's very interesting if so......

[22dodge]

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Originally Posted by phantomrt I am pretty sure the pushrod 3.3 and 3.8 bell housings are different than that of the 3.5L. If the 3.8L housing was the same, then the Jeeps are using the 3.8 now in the Wrangler, so a RWD transmission does exist. But like I said, I am pretty sure they are different. Also, that "1-bolt hole not lining up" is the difference between a cast iron block 3.5L and an aluminum 3.5L engine. But yes, the 5spd from the 2.7L JR cars will bolt up to a 3.5L and all the holes will line up. But, they're transversely mounted.

the 3.3/3.8 and 3.5 use the exact same bellhousing bolt pattern. the 2.7 is nearly identical except for the top driverside bolt is in a different spot. I have a 604 trans from a 2003 stratus w/ 2.7 that has two holes in that unique spot allowing this cast to bolt all 6 bolts to both a 2.7 and 3.3/3.8. I was looking a a 2.7 and a 3.3 LH intrepid trans. both have enough material where you could drill the corresponding hole so it appears you could use the older and newer trans in either application. (not sure on the MVLPS...because I didn't look at it.... but on the 604's 1996-1998 are different plug- ins from 1999 and up.... WTF is the reasoning behind that?!?!?!)

I have a customer that blew up their trans in a 1999 caravan. all the parts interchanges state 1999 only.... so I installed my 2003 stratus trans and it worked perfectly w/o any issues, it dropped right in and everything plugged in fine. go figure.

[phantomrt]

Sweet. Learn something new every day. So, making a RWD 3.5L LH car wouldn't be too difficult, assuming the 3.8 in the latest Jeep Wranglers is still the old school pushrod 3.8 and still has the same bolt pattern. Then a 6spd transmission for the job does exist.

I never saw the two side-by side, but isn't the aluminum 3.5 bolt pattern is different than the cast iron 3.5?? The only difference being that top drivers' side bolt. And the ear on the transmission does have plenty of meat there to drill a new hole to make them interchange. I always thought the aluminum 3.2/3.5 and 2.7 engines are identical bolt patterns.

[minivanin]

the Jeep 3.8 is the same 3.8 in everything else...i had one come in at my previous job, where i had to wire it up for a trailer, yes it had the 6-speed in it (OMFG!!!) i was drooling all over it ( & i hate Jeeps)

from what i could see the pattern looked similar to older 3.3/3.8s, but i was not absolutly sure if they might have changed anything up (doubtful since that would require a separate casting for the jeep & costing more $$$)

[slowquest]

Anyone know if that Jeep trans is removable bell or not? I plan on stopping by the local Jeep dealer tomorrow, but thought what the heck, I'll ask here first.

[phantomrt]

I doubt it. I don't think any transmissions made anymore have removable bell housings. Let me know what you find out.

[gkcooper]

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Originally Posted by slowquest Anyone know if that Jeep trans is removable bell or not? I plan on stopping by the local Jeep dealer tomorrow, but thought what the heck, I'll ask here first.

Nope. I looked at one a few weeks ago in a parking lot.

[minivanin]

correct, its one peice

[gkcooper]

3.5 HO + 6 speed is my dream drivetrain for my old Dakota. I have been keeping an eye out for a jeep tranny. They will have to start showing up at some time.