Photos of turbo 3.0 setups

[Boogieman142]

they were offered in a select # of cars, not sure which though.

[Dy_nasty]

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Originally Posted by turbo minivan whats that in? thats a newer 3.3!

It resides in a Dynasty, it's not newer 3.3, it's only the intake manifold from '97 and up minivan 3.3.

[Reaper1]

I don't want to be a pain, an @ss or whatever, but the 3.3, because of its DIS(requiring a tone ring on the flywheel and a pick-up in the tranny bellhousing), different bellhousing bolt pattern, and what cars it was optioned in(nothing smaller than a Dynasty) NEVER had a manual option in the US. It has been talked about time and time again on the 3.0 lists since I can remember about how to put a manual on a 3.3. Not once has anybody ever come up with a factory bolt-on option for somebody to go search for. Chrysler "may" have dabbled in making a manual for it early in the program(they were going to be optioned in G & J bodies, but never were), but that's all. You are limited to an A604 or an A606 tranny. If you are lucky enough to have a CANAM car...well, go you! Other than that you are looking at a custom adapter plate, custom flywheel(or stand alone running the tone wheel up front), or something NOT coming from Chrylser to make that happen. It has been said that the bolt pattern for the 3.0 and the 3.3/3.8 are the same, but I've never put them side by side to see for sure. Even if it were, see above for the difficulties in running the DIS.

Like I said, I don't want to be an @ss, but after being around this community about 10 years, and been going to junk yards ect. for about as long, these are the facts.

[mwinkle353]

Well, with the new developement of the SRT-4's clutch assembly, we might be able to mount a large spline 5 speed to a 3.3 IF the transmission will bolt to the motor.

The toner rings are on the flexplate, correct? If so, the srt clutch is made to bolt to a flexplate and not a flywheel. The flywheel is actually a part of the "modular clutch system".

[c2xejk]

I suspect that the SRT-4's tone ring is designed for a 4-cyl instead of a V6... (180 degree vs 120 degree seperation.)

I think there is a better choice for a donor vehicle, Stratus R/T w/2.7L 5-sp. The bad news is they are rarer than a T3 car... and car-part.com seems to confuse the 5-sp MT with the autostick AT...

[Ondonti]

What would be the point in the huge expense to run a 3.3 or 3.8 with a custom manual tranny setup???? All that work and the motor still wont be able to handle any sort of power.
If you want displacement, then you can get 3.7L out of the 6g72 spending probably the same money with Ray Pampenas new billet crank.

Regardless of displacement you will never see a 3.3 or 3.8 that makes the hp a 3.0 does.

[mwinkle353]

This much is true. I was just thinking out loud again.

[Ondonti]

I believe people are converting to standard flywheel/clutch setups in the fast SRT-4's

Another reason why a 3.3 just doesnt make sense.

[Reaper1]

The ONLY reason I would consider a 3.3 is because of the capability to run the 3.5L crank and what not. The actualy 3.5 set-up is too wide to fit sideways in our cars though...so you'd be stuck running the pushrods. No thanks.

I'd much rather just go after the 3.5 as a whole engine and back it up with a custom tranny...THAT engine is bad-@ss...

BTW, with upgraded internals the 3.3 CAN be a viable powerplant. I have no doubts about that. It's just that if you are interested in having either a 5-speed or auto-xing....it just don't think it is the best choice. There are actually more performance parts for the 3.0 than the 3.3...which in itself is both sad and speaks volumes...

[Ondonti]

Mitsu 3.5 > Chrysler 3.5 hands down.

[Dy_nasty]

Ahhh, who cares, as long as I am satisfied, but i do appriciate everyones input, some great new fresh ideas out there!

[TurboShadowES]

Ondonti... if you werent trapping higher then 101 last year, what have you changed to pick up enough MPH to run mid 12's? you going to need to pick up at least 10mph to do that.....

[Ondonti]

Mid 12's???

what are you talking about? When did I say that? Mid 12 on 5 psi boost maybe.

Last year on 5 psi in a 3000lb spirit I ran 101.89mph and 101.7mph back to back. Bone stock motor, heads, valves, cams (stock cam in the 3.0 is 182 adv duration ~135 deg @.050" and .350" lift K27 turbo

This year my car is a duster, and weighs less then 2400# with driver.
70 hours worth of portwork in the heads, oversize undercut stem swirl polished stainless Ferrea valves, Custom turbo cam 278 deg adv duration 216 deg @ .050" .450" lift. 34 degrees more duration at .050" lift then the stock cam has at ~.001" (total lift). Big turbo.
Forges pistons, balanced.

Should be able to run up near 8000 rpms when I get the megasquirt installed.

Im hoping to pick up 30-40mph in the traps this year.

[Jetson8294]

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Originally Posted by Ondonti Mid 12's??? what are you talking about? When did I say that? Mid 12 on 5 psi boost maybe. Last year on 5 psi in a 3000lb spirit I ran 101.89mph and 101.7mph back to back. Bone stock motor, heads, valves, cams (stock cam in the 3.0 is 182 adv duration ~135 deg @.050" and .350" lift K27 turbo This year my car is a duster, and weighs less then 2400# with driver. 70 hours worth of portwork in the heads, oversize undercut stem swirl polished stainless Ferrea valves, Custom turbo cam 278 deg adv duration 216 deg @ .050" .450" lift. 34 degrees more duration at .050" lift then the stock cam has at ~.001" (total lift). Big turbo. Forges pistons, balanced. Should be able to run up near 8000 rpms when I get the megasquirt installed. Im hoping to pick up 30-40mph in the traps this year.

you my friend are my fricken hero!!!

[irocelectric93]

So brent i went to Ferrea's website...and was looking into doing custom valves like you...kinda. I've had a set of heads that i had been looking into working on...i mean do them right so i was looking into valves and porting etc. So i dont want to copy your setup but i would like to know where you stand with valves...seat, etc spec wise compared to stock. Here soon im going to get custom valves and finish these heads for the turbo setup...cams will probably come next.