Finished!! Forged piston block, Custom valve head (flowbenched)

[paduster]

i just finished reading this thread i am very happy to see a 3.0 turbo i have a 3.0 5sp duster and would like to turbo it and you set allot of the problems i was going to have i cannot wait to hear more of what you are going to do .

[Ondonti]

Doing the brake clean trick right now. Not sure that will do anything. Pressure tested two cylinders tonight and they blew lots of air out the valve cover with 120psi in ONE cylinder. Its got to be horrible during combustion.

I could feel a breeze out the valve cover and I have a 5/8" outlet on there...plus a 5/8" fitting on my oil pan and then the rear cover too. So all 3 probably all leak out that much

No wonder 14psi boost is a smokescreen. If bansheenut can get me a trailor to take the car home if it breaks, i might go up to salt lake next weekend (pending weather) and smokescreen some ricers and bansheenut :P

[bansheenut420]

I will rent a tow dolly if I have to. lol I want you to come up and smokescreen some ricers with me.

[Ondonti]

I have to do something with the front vent I put on the oil pan. I took off the hose and it was obviously sucking oil straight up the hose lol.

Instead of using the 5/8" barb, I am probably going to make a hose directly from the fitting I welded on to the bottom of a moroso oil air separator. The opening on those is like 1" so i dont want to restrict oil drain too much.

So These things definitely are working :P

[lookin]

Try some Auto-Rx on that thing Brent. You got nothing to loose, and if it really is just a matter of glazing, then it probably will help. It wont fix mechanical problems though of course.

You may as well. It sure can't hurt.



PS

I hope you remembered to change your oil and filter after the brake clean application.

[Ondonti]

Auto RX isnt going to do anything different except take a long time to possible do nothing.

I have to know when the cylinders are actually unglazed so I can do proper breakin procedure.

There are better things like quick seat powders but honestly nothing is going to help the rings. I had to pull the oilpan anyways to mess with the Vent. Now I gotta pull the tranny and replace the freeze plug. I can already see the back of the flywheel got "machined" by the freeze plug. Aluminum shavings fell out too.

Gapless rings shouldnt have massive leakdown like these do. They are probably 100% :P

[Ondonti]

Bad news is the relief valve on my oil pump stripped when i was removing the shims to lower oil pressure. So if my oil pressure instantly goes to zero, I know what popped out :P

[lookin]

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Originally Posted by Ondonti Auto RX isnt going to do anything different except take a long time to possible do nothing. I have to know when the cylinders are actually unglazed so I can do proper breakin procedure. There are better things like quick seat powders but honestly nothing is going to help the rings. I had to pull the oilpan anyways to mess with the Vent. Now I gotta pull the tranny and replace the freeze plug. I can already see the back of the flywheel got "machined" by the freeze plug. Aluminum shavings fell out too. Gapless rings shouldnt have massive leakdown like these do. They are probably 100% :P

Brent, if nothing is going to help the rings, then why mess with Brake Klean? That stuff instantly trashes your oil. You have to be really careful trying that last resort fix, ...... and since you know that your oil pump could go any minute, then you should stop driving the car.

Fix the pump.

Pull the slugs.

Rehone and re-ring.

Or risk loosing another build.

That is .... unless you just want to just have fun .... making a kId dEsTrUcTo motor trash YouTube vid. I think you should leave that to the ricer kids though.

PS

I can tell, by the look of that 'stuff' in your oil pan, that your motor is already living on borrowed time. You better fix the problem soon dear.

[lookin]

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Originally Posted by Ondonti I have to do something with the front vent I put on the oil pan. I took off the hose and it was obviously sucking oil straight up the hose lol. Instead of using the 5/8" barb, I am probably going to make a hose directly from the fitting I welded on to the bottom of a moroso oil air separator. The opening on those is like 1" so i dont want to restrict oil drain too much. So These things definitely are working :P

I just saw the pics, ...... and OMG!

Of course it sucks oil. lol Call me a "scardey" cat, but i would not have done that, because of course it would suck the oil mist that helps cool and lube the crank assembly. Your motor shall a short life at this rate.

Maybe I got you all wrong Brent, and you are just having fun, hoping to get it to hold together for one or two good races, or something.

Just please wear a Nomex jumper, booties, gloves 'and' a face cowl for that, OK?

OY VAY!

[Ondonti]

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Originally Posted by lookin I just saw the pics, ...... and OMG! Of course it sucks oil. lol Call me a "scardey" cat, but i would not have done that, because of course it would suck the oil mist that helps cool and lube the crank assembly. Your motor shall a short life at this rate. Maybe I got you all wrong Brent, and you are just having fun, hoping to get it to hold together for one or two good races, or something. Just please wear a Nomex jumper, booties, gloves 'and' a face cowl for that, OK? OY VAY!

Not much else to do. 3.0 heads/block dont have enough oil drain.

I was going to put a separator on originally but at the time I thought the motor was broken (exhaust leak) so I was just trying to see if it would run again.

Feel free to point out what you think is imminent danger in the oil pan. Apparently you didnt read what I found in there when i first put that vent on .
There is nothing in the pan. There are a LOT of scratches and the "dry" spots are where I had sprayed some brake cleaner. Every time I pull the pan I have a small heart attack cause I see those scratches and think its bearing material.

the vent was a lot smaller before, I only had a small hole in the pan for the big fitting. I decided to open it up and ditch the 5/8" barb so I could use some 1" hose to connect the separator to the Oil pan. I guess it needs more flowpath before the separator so oil can travel back down while air goes up. I think that was a problem with the previous setup, that the air flowpath was consistant so once oil got up there it wouldnt come back down as long as it was being sucked on strong enough. I dont know if this will work either because that device is not meant to be at that angle. But I think the 1" hole can flow enough to return oil from the separator if it is working.

Its gonna start snowing here soon and get depressing.

BTW, it doesnt suck that much oil. It only would suck oil when I hit over 10 pounds of boost. I rarely ever get into wide open throttle boost. My last trip to the track, the only times my car ever hit full boost were 3 times on a backroad with bansheenut watching the datalogs to tune the car and then once at the track.
Its not like there are a bunch of 12 second cars driving around or that it would be safe to race them anyways. My Spirit I could drive around WOT a lot more often because its not fast :P

I think I have gone WOT more with people in the car then I ever have by myself (they get in the car because they 'want to see what it can do). It only takes one stab at the throttle to convince myself that the car is dangerous and that I would rather be at the track. I disagree with a lot of people here who have fast cars and think they are safe on the street. You can drive slow and be safe but there sure ain't a point to have that much power in a FWD car on the street. I dont like racing on the street cause I dont want any tickets and when you get in those situations your "danger awareness" turns off (at least mine does). Bad things can happen when you get in that competitive zone in a car on the streets.

[Ondonti]

Maybe I will install an elbow to level out that separator. I think it looks cute now but it will get grotesque looking with an elbow :P

I want to feel some boost again.

[Gutfeeling]

Is that o/a separator venting to atmosphere or is it connect to the intake? From what it seems, it must be connected to a intake pipe right?
Maybe look into adding a check valve?

[c2xejk]

Lookin would probably really freak if I suggested Bon Ami'ing the engine...

[Ondonti]

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Originally Posted by Gutfeeling Is that o/a separator venting to atmosphere or is it connect to the intake? From what it seems, it must be connected to a intake pipe right? Maybe look into adding a check valve?

That hooks to a 5/8" hose that is connected to a one way valve welded to my down pie. I have two of those. I tried running one to each valve cover and that was BAD cause it pulls more then the heads can drain oil.

[Ondonti]

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Originally Posted by c2xejk Lookin would probably really freak if I suggested Bon Ami'ing the engine...

Do they sell that anymore? I have seen 'quickseat' sold by some ring manufacturers and thats is. Simon has used powdered soap before lol.