2.2l I4 to 3.0l V6

[Ravewolf]

Okay, just curious, but how hard would it be to convert my 84 Daytona over to a 3.0l V6? And how do these engines stand? What can I make the most power from? I'm leaning toward the V6 since I have a friend who owns a stealth, and I've seen the power these things have, but I also know the 2.2l are formidable engines as well. Please, someone help.

[Ondonti]

before you chose your motor you should probably decide what your goals are, and what you are willing to do to make your project turn out.

If you want simplicity then a 3.0 will be okay.

If you want more fun then a 2.x turbo will be fun and you can buy bolton go fast goodies.

If you want a fast headache, try a project like me, turbo 3.0 v6. Lots of work involves and no go fast goodies from vendors. Gotta figure it out yourself.

[jmitch]

the swap itself wouldn't be too bad. hardest part would probably be the wiring , but a complete harness would be a good start.
just get all the mounts out of the donor car

[RoadWarrior222]

A stealth motor in a 'tona will be a bit of a project, but the normal V6, less so. However, probably need a complete wiring harness, since '84 pre-existed the 3.0 there's nothing compatible with any 3.0 motor harness. V6 daytonas aren't hard to find though.

[Ravewolf]

Okay, so how is it Stealth's and 3000gt's are so quick if they don't sell bolt on parts? No cold air intakes? No manifolds? Etc? Aren't they part of the ricer crowd? No, I'm not trying to be a ricer, I've just always wanted a car that flat out books it that would not be of the norm (no one has a Daytona in my area, it's all Mustangs and Camaros, and SRT4s), and I like the idea of a TTv6, but if it's going to be a mess, then forget it. I thought the V6's in Daytonas were the same as the Stealth/3000gt's though? That was the impression I got when I read up on these cars.

[mwinkle353]

that can't be farther from the truth. The SOHC 12 valve 3.0L is not the same (but similar) to the DOHC 24 valve motors in the fast stealth/3000gt twin turbo motors. Chrysler has it's own intake setup (much different than the Mitsubishi cars), and most of the SOHC bolt on parts might work, but are very hard to find (since it was the DOHC motors that got all the go fast aftermarket support).

So, unless you're going to run a distributorless DOHC motor/trans in your car with alot of custom fabrication and a stand alone fuel/ignition computer, and if you want to make more power (with less fabrication); I'd suggest going with a high revving 4 cyl setup with lots of boost.


DO YOUR RESEARCH ON THOSE 6G72 VARIANTS BEFORE YOU START CUSSING AT OUR OPINIONS. FLAMING THE MORE KNOWEDGABLE PERSONS WHO'VE BEEN WORKING ON THESE MOTORS FOR A LONG TIME, ISN'T GOING TO HELP YOUR CAUSE EITHER.

[Ondonti]

Me and wink have never worked on a v6 engine before.

[Shadow24V]

ROFL and ive never touched one either!

in reality there are a NUMBER of 6G7* variants, SOHC 12v and 24v, DOHC 24v, displacements from 2.5, 3.0, 3.5, 3.8, MIVEC and non MIVEC, Hyundai 2.7 and something else, and so on.....

it all depends what you want, how much you want to put into it and so on.

Brent and wink know a LOT (i might know a thing or two too), brent's 12v is prolly gonna hit 300WHP easily, my 24v swap should hit that too when i get the $$$ and time to supercharge it.

[dodgeshadowchik]

3.0? what's that?

as mentioned above, these motors are similar, as they share common roots. they are all different from eachother, tho. the v6's are fun to play around with if you want to be different. of course, being different comes with much more work and paitence!

[capev86]

i'd only do a 3.0 swap in a car w/ the mitsu 2.6 4 cylinder. a car that is already a v6 would be a fun vehicle to go the stealth/3000gt turbo route! a stock 2.5 T1 will beat a 3.0 any day...then you add an intercooler and start getting serious!

[mwinkle353]

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Originally Posted by capev86 i'd only do a 3.0 swap in a car w/ the mitsu 2.6 4 cylinder. a car that is already a v6 would be a fun vehicle to go the stealth/3000gt turbo route! a stock 2.5 T1 will beat a 3.0 any day...then you add an intercooler and start getting serious!

I dunno. Stock vs Stock the T1 and 3.0L cars are very equal. Both make the same torque (within 10 lbft) and the same horsepower (again within 10 hp)

Put the two cars side by side, and it's going to be a driver's race.

[RoadWarrior222]

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Originally Posted by capev86 i'd only do a 3.0 swap in a car w/ the mitsu 2.6 4 cylinder.

Unless you find a rotted out Starion with the 197HP Intercooled Turbo version of the 2.6 as a donor of course.....

[tkelly27]

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Originally Posted by Ravewolf Okay, so how is it Stealth's and 3000gt's are so quick if they don't sell bolt on parts? No cold air intakes? No manifolds? Etc? Aren't they part of the ricer crowd? No, I'm not trying to be a ricer, I've just always wanted a car that flat out books it that would not be of the norm (no one has a Daytona in my area, it's all Mustangs and Camaros, and SRT4s), and I like the idea of a TTv6, but if it's going to be a mess, then forget it. I thought the V6's in Daytonas were the same as the Stealth/3000gt's though? That was the impression I got when I read up on these cars.

Everyone else has it right. Even if it was a simple head swap, all the bolt on goodies for the 3kgt's 1) wouldn't fit, it's a different car! 2) are expensive! Find a 6G performance site, for just a few of the 6G bolt ons (Engine External Bolt-On*-*Mitsubishi 3000GT*/*Dodge Stealth don't even think about new manifolds or headers) you can go out and buy yourself a second really nice daytona, drop it off a cliff, and after you are done watching it burn, you'll still have enough leftover to do a turbo swap into your '84.

If you really want to impress the mustangs and camaros, beat them with a 4 banger, and tell them with a straight face that it came out of a minivan.

People who modify the 3.0 in these cars do it out of love and do AMAZING work, respect them and their wisdom

[Ondonti]

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Originally Posted by capev86 a stock 2.5 T1 will beat a 3.0 any day...then you add an intercooler and start getting serious!

Yeah thats pretty much not accurate at all.
Ive never seen a stock 2.5 t1 dip into the 14's. A stock 3.0 duster will whip ANY factory stock 2.5 t1 produced.

[irocelectric93]

Uhh yeah t1s arent that hard for a 3.0 to take down at all. Even the 2.2s unless they are modded arent hard to beat. Honestly i like the 4 cylinder turbo cars but i think they are overrated at times. Oh and if brents car doesnt hit 300whp im going to hit him personally....i would think it would be upwards more towards 350 or better ...all depends on the amount of psi hes running too