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So I take it you don't have much faith in the MMO and oil change idea then?

I think I should get step by step instructions somewhere with pics and all. Seems like doing something like this, for the first time, by following instructions is just plain crazy, but I did the R&R on the exhaust and intake parts, took the TB and plenum apart and reassembled them after they were coated too, without having a clue about what I was doing.

Still seems like a crazy thing to do though. So I just may do it.

Thanks for your help Brent.

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Originally Posted by Ondonti If you can do the serpentine belt then that is honestly the most annoying part of the project.

riiiiiiiiiiiiight ...

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Originally Posted by Ondonti If you are just doing the rear lifters it should only take about 5 minutes to remove the lifters if you are using a speed wrench (I LOVE mine for this).

I would be using an old craftsman manual, and so that is sure to be a jolly time.

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Originally Posted by Ondonti 2 bolts on the alternator 2 bolts on the valve cover 8 bolts on the rocker arms and you dont remove those bolts.

No biggie.

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Originally Posted by Ondonti Then you just pull up on the rocker arms and catch the lifters. Be careful because they will fall out by themselves if you are not paying attention. Dont lose them

I see trouble right there. I am old and decreeped, can't see a damn thing anymore, and I got a bad case of CRS too. Well lets just say it will be harder for me than it is for you.

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Originally Posted by Ondonti Cleaning will be the most pain in the butt issue.

Actually for me that will be the fun part. I like that kind of stuff.

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Originally Posted by Ondonti My dusters lifters suck because I add shims/ washers to make up for my camshaft. To reinstall the lifters I have to remove the whole rocker assembly, and then install everything upside down (so i can align the washers) and then TAPE each lifter into place so they dont fall down and let the washer alignment get messed up.

I would rather parachute into the arctic wearing a wet bikini than do that job, and the very idea of me wearing a bikini, at my age, is absolutely horrifying.

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Originally Posted by Ondonti You can just pop them back in without removing the assembly.

riiiiiiiiiiight

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Originally Posted by Ondonti It is a bit tricky trying to make sure they dont fall out after you put them back in. They want to fall out cause you have been pulling up on the rocker arm assembly and they have nothing pushing against them (the valve stems) to keep them from falling out.

ah HA! I knew it!

That is just the "sort of thing" that would drive me over the edge. I would bollix the whole thing up, and then I would wind up on the garage floor, in fetal position, covered in grease and crying.

I am not a natural mechanic at all. Just changing spark plugs is a huge deal for me.

[Tim_K]

When I was assembling the valvetrain for my 3.0 I just put in my Shadow ES, here's what I did on the lifters:

Set rocker assembly on clean cardboard, upside down.

Drop lifters into place.

Use vinyl electrical tape to tape the lifters in, the tape overlaps itself only a little bit, and I folded over the end of the tape to make a handle for later.

Install rocker assembly onto head, tighten bolts part way until the lifters have little to no slack space in them.

Pull off electrical tape from each lifter, tighten down the bolts.

Worked great for me.

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Sounds like you are a real problem solver Tim.

I think the problem is solved now though. I drained all the new oil accidentally, because it was too hot to try put that plug back in, to stop it form draining all the way out.

I refilled with 1 qt Marvel Mystery Oil, 1 oz Honda polynester 2 cycle racing oil, 1 qt Valvoline 10w 40 dino, 2.5 qts Valvoline Syntech 10w 30, and then I went for a long hard drive. I also went off on a corn road, put it in first gear, and flexed the rings really good several times.

Once I got home the HLA noise was almost gone, and tomorrow afternoon I am changing to Valvoline 10w 30 Durablend with a Purolator Pure 1 filter. I bet that takes care of it. If not then I will do the damn HLA replacement therapy.

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I changed the oil and filter again today, and though it is better it is still there. I'll give it another week, and if it doesn't pump up I will put in new HLAs.

[Ondonti]

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Originally Posted by Tim_K When I was assembling the valvetrain for my 3.0 I just put in my Shadow ES, here's what I did on the lifters: Set rocker assembly on clean cardboard, upside down. Drop lifters into place. Use vinyl electrical tape to tape the lifters in, the tape overlaps itself only a little bit, and I folded over the end of the tape to make a handle for later. Install rocker assembly onto head, tighten bolts part way until the lifters have little to no slack space in them. Pull off electrical tape from each lifter, tighten down the bolts. Worked great for me.

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Originally Posted by Ondonti My dusters lifters suck because I add shims/ washers to make up for my camshaft. To reinstall the lifters I have to remove the whole rocker assembly, and then install everything upside down (so i can align the washers) and then TAPE each lifter into place so they dont fall down and let the washer alignment get messed up.

Yeah um I already posted this as I have done this exact job about 20 times and it doubles the time needed to do the job.

No reason do to any of that unless you are shimming the lifters.

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I am thinking of getting my HLAs from these guys. Mizpah Precision Word has it that their rebuilds are better than new OEM ones.

I been studying up a bit. Apparently HLAs usually pump right back up or not at all. It looks like I am going to have to do it. Man I hope I don't screw up.

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Thanks again for the instructions and the encouragement Brent.

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HALLELUJAH!

That lifter finally pumped up! It's quiet once again.

Thanks everyone for your help.