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Old 01-21-2008, 09:11 PM   #91
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im game for jammin a leaf blower down the intake of my 2.5 n/a

i think ill need a new intake manifold... right? and tb... hmmm but im pissed at the kid that would sell me a leaf blower lol
nah.. use the TBI setup just as it is, route a hose from the leaf blower to the airbox opening

If I get the Integra im trying to get i think ill throw a leaf blower on it along with some of my extra turbododge.com stickers
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:25 PM   #92
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in the world of redneck blowers consider this maybe. The EGR on a NA carb engine is really overdriven. Big pulley on the cam and tiny on the EGR. Yard the electric engine off a big leaf blower and mount the EGR pulley to the leaf blower shaft. You need the right size shaft or pulley, then the leaf blower needs to turn the right direction, then you need to add the EGR mount to the leaf blower. plastic light weight centrifical supercharger. $10 leaf blower from a yard sale and some JB weld and your rockin!
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:43 PM   #93
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:46 PM   #94
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all in all

You are better off with a 10hp shot of nitrous lol.
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:50 PM   #95
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i cant have nos.... id be givin myself 250 hp shots to the head to much... and forget how to get home lol
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another thing to add to this thread is a good hood scoop. Done right a good scoop will produce boost. Between 2" and 4" off the hood the air is compressed as it goes over a car. There is a lot of power hiding in there with the right scoop. The idea normally gags compact people but those things really work on V8s. 3-4 PSI is better than nothing. Mopar claimed 15 PSI from a T/A hood so I bought one and it really worked good (works good lol). But they smoke a lot of dope at Mopar, same guys told me my T1 would shatter like glass at 14 PSI of boost. Still though, no messing around, start doing 50 year old tricks with NAs and you will go faster.
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:10 AM   #97
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You won't start seeing positive pressure on a hood scoop until your speedo is well past 100 mph. And we're talking maybe a tenth, two-tenths PSI. I'd believe 15 PSI from a scoop only if you're counting the 14.7 PSI of ambient air pressure too.
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You won't start seeing positive pressure on a hood scoop until your speedo is well past 100 mph. And we're talking maybe a tenth, two-tenths PSI. I'd believe 15 PSI from a scoop only if you're counting the 14.7 PSI of ambient air pressure too.
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:42 AM   #99
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There is a lot of power hiding in there with the right scoop. The idea normally gags compact people but those things really work on V8s. 3-4 PSI is better than nothing. Mopar claimed 15 PSI from a T/A hood


I don't believe a scoop will be good for even 1 psi @ 150 mph
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I haven't got any boost from my hood scoop. Lots of good clean cool air though.
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I don't believe a scoop will be good for even 1 psi @ 150 mph
Your right, Mopars claim is BS at the 100 MPH figure they gave me. The T/A hood is built right though and has a center pin of fiberglass to hold the scoop together. Mine broke from pressure. Built right a scoop will blow up like a balloon flexing.

Remember what I said about air running accross the car. That matters a bunch because of the condition of the air. If the scoop is up high, it is just in the breeze and getting some pressure but not much. Many scoops are flush with the hood. Air touching the car is barely moving at all, it crawling accross the car. This air is dead up 2" off the car, on a flush scoop it is dead 2" up over the scoop. Once you get up 1.5"-2" off the hood the air is compressed, this is the air that causes down force. This compressed layer or air is what you want, it is really fast moving and at 100 MPH it is at or above 150 compressed. A challenger hood's opening is 2" up off the hood, then it goes up 2" after that. So the opening is only open to the compressed air. Then they make it real wide to scoop in as much compressed air as they can. The six pack scoop ( Road Runner ) has the idea but is crude, but you can buy them and they don't look funny like the challenger scoop. Mopar claims that you must drill holes in the back of the scoop behind the carb with a T/A scoop because it traps too much air. I never did that and my hood squirts fuel through the throttle shafts like a blow through blower. The Challenger runs .4-.5 seconds quiker with the scoop hooked up right. Going back to the boost gauge thing, I tested my scoop with a drag strip but you could check to make sure your doing it right by sticking the gauge in the scoop.

Too many of you younger people grew up with cars that aren't worked on. I grew up around racers that raced bikes and cars every weekend. I had 3 hours of auto shop in high school everyday as a senior. I feel sorry for young people today, most of you can't even go to auto shop in high school anymore. Many grow up raised by there mom from Divorice and other reasons and they didn't have there dad around. Then ones that do have a dad have some sad Yuppy Honda driving piece of crap that can't change spark plugs. I have run a construction crew now over 18 years and young guys today are completely lost and it isn't the kids fault. Guys leave home not knowing how to read a tape measure and don't know what a shovel is. With cars many don't know they have to change there oil and don't know where the plugs are. For years now I end up being dad to my workers, many after they move on still come back around to show me what there doing. A holes on Ebay and other places know they can BS younger guys with plastic SCs and those lame chips that mess with your AF ratio to make power. If you guys read about people buying this crap stop attacking them like dogs going for a pork chop. They'll figure it out. If you are buying crap read through the past posts more or post question threads before you buy. Then the wolves can go after the part without stepping on anybody.
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That would be interesting to hook up a boost gauge, and see how much boost a real good scoop actually makes.
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Your right, Mopars claim is BS at the 100 MPH figure they gave me. The T/A hood is built right though and has a center pin of fiberglass to hold the scoop together. Mine broke from pressure. Built right a scoop will blow up like a balloon flexing.

Remember what I said about air running accross the car. That matters a bunch because of the condition of the air. If the scoop is up high, it is just in the breeze and getting some pressure but not much. Many scoops are flush with the hood. Air touching the car is barely moving at all, it crawling accross the car. This air is dead up 2" off the car, on a flush scoop it is dead 2" up over the scoop. Once you get up 1.5"-2" off the hood the air is compressed, this is the air that causes down force. This compressed layer or air is what you want, it is really fast moving and at 100 MPH it is at or above 150 compressed. A challenger hood's opening is 2" up off the hood, then it goes up 2" after that. So the opening is only open to the compressed air. Then they make it real wide to scoop in as much compressed air as they can. The six pack scoop ( Road Runner ) has the idea but is crude, but you can buy them and they don't look funny like the challenger scoop. Mopar claims that you must drill holes in the back of the scoop behind the carb with a T/A scoop because it traps too much air. I never did that and my hood squirts fuel through the throttle shafts like a blow through blower. The Challenger runs .4-.5 seconds quiker with the scoop hooked up right. Going back to the boost gauge thing, I tested my scoop with a drag strip but you could check to make sure your doing it right by sticking the gauge in the scoop.

Too many of you younger people grew up with cars that aren't worked on. I grew up around racers that raced bikes and cars every weekend. I had 3 hours of auto shop in high school everyday as a senior. I feel sorry for young people today, most of you can't even go to auto shop in high school anymore. Many grow up raised by there mom from Divorice and other reasons and they didn't have there dad around. Then ones that do have a dad have some sad Yuppy Honda driving piece of crap that can't change spark plugs. I have run a construction crew now over 18 years and young guys today are completely lost and it isn't the kids fault. Guys leave home not knowing how to read a tape measure and don't know what a shovel is. With cars many don't know they have to change there oil and don't know where the plugs are. For years now I end up being dad to my workers, many after they move on still come back around to show me what there doing. A holes on Ebay and other places know they can BS younger guys with plastic SCs and those lame chips that mess with your AF ratio to make power. If you guys read about people buying this crap stop attacking them like dogs going for a pork chop. They'll figure it out. If you are buying crap read through the past posts more or post question threads before you buy. Then the wolves can go after the part without stepping on anybody.
pope you hit the nail hundred percent man im 18 i graduated last year (07) man when i was in plumbing class the teacher would tell a kid to find tha half mark on the tape measure the smarter ones would actully find it then hed go wheres the quarter... theyd look at him and say where be dat

the only way he taught them how to read a tape is with drugs ok you buy an ounce of dope well he wants a half ounce how much do you have left then some other guy wants an 1/8 how much after that? so on and so forth....i was the best kid in that class i gess im blessed with mechanicle knowlage... it just makes sense to me

but i failed.... they frown apon skipping 30 days in a 28 day marking period next year i went to precision machining got almost stargiht 90s AND skipped pretty much 1 day a week on average

in the office they were trying to tell me im stupid cuz i failed plumbing... how can youfail plumbing plumbing is a stupid job uhhh.... no it aint bitch.... thats just a steriotype pipe fitters for example theres so much math in that it makes me wanna hide under my bed

the state of the world today makes me wanna hide from the future

oh yea nad you kids... if you skip school like i did youll end up where i am now 2 lay offs later and UNEMPLOYED HAHAHA so go to school
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pope you hit the nail hundred percent man im 18 i graduated last year (07) man when i was in plumbing class the teacher would tell a kid to find tha half mark on the tape measure the smarter ones would actully find it then hed go wheres the quarter... theyd look at him and say where be dat

the only way he taught them how to read a tape is with drugs ok you buy an ounce of dope well he wants a half ounce how much do you have left then some other guy wants an 1/8 how much after that? so on and so forth....i was the best kid in that class i gess im blessed with mechanicle knowlage... it just makes sense to me

but i failed.... they frown apon skipping 30 days in a 28 day marking period next year i went to precision machining got almost stargiht 90s AND skipped pretty much 1 day a week on average

in the office they were trying to tell me im stupid cuz i failed plumbing... how can youfail plumbing plumbing is a stupid job uhhh.... no it aint bitch.... thats just a steriotype pipe fitters for example theres so much math in that it makes me wanna hide under my bed

the state of the world today makes me wanna hide from the future

oh yea nad you kids... if you skip school like i did youll end up where i am now 2 lay offs later and UNEMPLOYED HAHAHA so go to school
well your english typing isn't much better than mine lol. Yeah I know the dopers, nearly every white guy doing construction is on dope. And I am a white guy BTW, but I have not done dope. One of my workers used to sell dope before he got caught and had to get on work release with me. He couldn't read a tape no matter what I did to teach him. Week and a half later he was told to show where 9' - 5 1/2" was on the tape and was down looking for it. While looking the other guy on the job said "he call tell you how many grams are in a 1/8th but he can't tell you how many 1/8s are in an inch". Sketch head. Once I didn't have time to spoon feed him so I told him to find something to do. He couldn't figure out how to rake so he went and cleaned the 1 ton. That 68' forest service truck hadn't been that clean since 68', the sketched out guy had every crumb of crud cleaned out of the truck.

Another thing kids should realize, it only takes one bad fry and your done. My uncle, a big reason I don't do any of it has pounded more dope than anyone on earth and is 55 now. He has been lucky. I had 3 guys work for me last year that are done, they are spun so bad there is no return. Both younger guys that fried there brain that one time and have been burnt since. I was into my cars and before that bikes. I didn't spend money on fun because I wanted to spend it on my cars. When my friends wanted to go blow all there money on fun I drove them. In the end we all had fun, we all got laid, and I was the only one that had anything to show for my work later. My brother has always had fun and smoked pot, he is in his early 30s, makes 50-60 thousand a year, lives in my parrents basement broke.

I keep telling my uncle I can't wait for him to die. I tell him that when he goes I'm going to make a lot of money off the carcus. Anyone that can abuse there body that much and live is a miracle and maybe they can find a cure for cancer or something with the body
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I am a sophomore. I grew up in a car club with big blocks and turbo dodges (best combo EVER) and I can atest to everything the pope has said. I live in Johnson county Kansas (where all the rich kids get nice cars) and half the lot is populated with v6 mustangs with cold air intakes because that is the best upgrade you can make (HA). These kids are so mechanically stupid that you have to show them how to screw in a light bulb (not a real over exaggeration). There is probably millions of dollars of illegal drugs going around that school daily. Not only do they not have any mechanical knowledge, they all believe they can drive! Just today i pulling out in the lebaron, and some Mercedes pulls right up on my bumper, sits there, and honks his horn expecting me to move. I am scared for the future....
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