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Old 02-09-2008, 11:34 PM   #1
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hey, i have a 93 shadow with a v6 5 speed and shes quick but it could use some more power any suggestions on how to do so? i have a 92 shadow sitting at home runs and is the same engine and everything as my 93. yeah i know its a shadow but not many people suspect a shadow of having any balls so i want to have a shadow with some(sleeper). any ideas would be great because im ripping the car apart for paint and i need a new clutch as well so tune up and mods will happen all at the same time. so i could be looking for a cold air intake or turbo for it, does anyone have any ideas or tips to help me out with more HP?

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Old 02-10-2008, 06:53 AM   #2
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i know its a shadow but not many people suspect a shadow of having any balls

you dont have to say that on here,we live for fwd dodges!!!Thus the reason for the site,

do search,
but il gve ya a start
52 or 58mm throuttle body
under drive pulley
2.5 or 3 inch exhaust, take the cat out if you can.. depends on were you are
a cold air intake
advance the timming bit



PS i have 58mm thouttle body and spacer for sale
and were both in canada so shipping will be easy!
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Old 02-10-2008, 07:36 AM   #3
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If you think a Shadow surprises them, you can imagine their look with a minivan.

Ported upper & lower intakes. Ported cylinder head. 60mm TB.
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:33 PM   #4
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Welcome to turboddoge!.More and more canadians keep showing up it's awsome. Any pics of your shadow?.
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Old 02-10-2008, 10:23 PM   #5
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Dibs on the 58mm

As for the mods, if going into the tranny, pick up a Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel.

From there you can pull the A/C out if you don't care for it or busted like mine was, good for an extra 2mpg and a couple horses.

Intake spacers but KMPerformance aren't doing any at the moment, I may try cheetahonline.com although others report problems.

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Port the Intake plenum there is a link I place that showed ntrain2k's porting job EDIT: look here for link
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:00 PM   #6
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Welcome 93 3.0 shadow!

Did you ever come to the right place.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:43 AM   #7
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I ran 87 octane on 15* advance no problem, so you will be fine by advancing the timing a few degrees. Take off the upper intake plenum and seperate the two halves. Remove the big wall in the middle of it and smooth it all out. Get a throttle body off a 3.3L and it bolts right on. I stuck a $20 cone filter right on the end of the throttle body and it worked well, better than the stock airbox at least. Gut the stock cat and run 2 1/4" mandrel bend exhaust all the way back with a muffler of your choice. Or run 2.5" all the way back.
And since you are putting a new clutch in it you should get a T2/T3 clutch from ********************, and if you have the $ for an aluminum flywheel get that too. Differential pin retainers might be a good idea too, they are only $4 a piece from the dealer and you need two. With those mods your 3.0 will rev like a bastard. Solid motor mounts are a great upgrade too. Then if you want to go into the motor and rebuild it 10:1 pistons, custom grind cams, ported heads, ported exhaust manifolds etc.
With some of those same mods minus the fidanza flywheel I was burning the tires into second and chirping third on the stock long block. I'm expecting more from my 10:1 motor when I drop it in
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make a real cold air intake,, made a word of diffrence on my car, inlvoles moving battery to trunk and cutting hole in frame rail, i did to my spirit,
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for the sake of helping out Phil...does anyone have some pics on where to get and how to set up a 60mm throttlebody?
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Old 02-12-2008, 07:55 PM   #11
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for the sake of helping out Phil...does anyone have some pics on where to get and how to set up a 60mm throttlebody?
Was that 60mm specific?......or...a 58mm from the 3.8 engine off of a Town & Country or Grand Caravan?.....This is a 58mm on my engine. It's a direct bolt on, one has to do some porting work on the inside of the manifold flange to get the needed swing clearance for the throttle blade as well as better airflow in general (I made a template with a 60mm opening in it and bolted it to the manifold flange & went to work). The only item I transfered to this body was the TPS sensor from the 46mm body (just to line up the harness plug)
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:54 PM   #12
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Was that 60mm specific?......or...a 58mm from the 3.8 engine off of a Town & Country or Grand Caravan?.....This is a 58mm on my engine. It's a direct bolt on, one has to do some porting work on the inside of the manifold flange to get the needed swing clearance for the throttle blade as well as better airflow in general (I made a template with a 60mm opening in it and bolted it to the manifold flange & went to work). The only item I transfered to this body was the TPS sensor from the 46mm body (just to line up the harness plug) [ IMG]http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u124/55trucker/DodgeShadow006Large.jpg[/IMG]
Yep, its a 60mm from a Jeep 4.0L High Output Engine from cherokee/wrangler vehicles

And looking at a conversion chart, 60mm Still is not very big of a TB

46mm = 1.81239 inches
52mm = 2.0488 inches
58mm = 2.2851999999999996 inches
60mm = 2.364 inches

So looking at that, even a 2.5" CAI isn't going to big. I was looking at a 3" setup but it looks like a waste of time now.
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:12 PM   #13
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thanks for the its all being taken into consideration and is going to be done to my other shadow and then put onto the one i drive if it works because i have to drive her everyday

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Old 02-13-2008, 06:33 PM   #14
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how do you mod the ford tb so is progessive. so you dont rear end people lol

on a sde note i always used windsheld urathane on my motor mounts, always worked well
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:21 AM   #15
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if i took the TB off of a 3.3 intrepid motor would that bolt up with minimal modification?

if not any suggestions on where to find a 3.3 TB that will bolt on?

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