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Old 05-08-2009, 09:59 AM   #1
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What would be needed to do this conversion successfully and also besides being simpler and easier to work with does this give any gains of any kind?
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I doubt there are any gains, a spark is a spark, just like all the BS ads that try to sell you platinum tipped spark plugs and expensive wires and coils.

Those things make very little gain if any.

As far as "simpler and easier" goes, if a distributor is too complicated for someone, they shouldn't be working on older cars! At least with a distributor you can adjust the base timing easily.
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Old 05-09-2009, 02:48 AM   #3
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:42 AM   #4
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I doubt there are any gains, a spark is a spark, just like all the BS ads that try to sell you platinum tipped spark plugs and expensive wires and coils.

Those things make very little gain if any.

As far as "simpler and easier" goes, if a distributor is too complicated for someone, they shouldn't be working on older cars! At least with a distributor you can adjust the base timing easily.
Well since you spoke first I will answer your concern.
I want to remove my distributor out of the way to flip my plenum around
for the holset.
As for older cars I was changing points on distributors before your parents were even born. so keep your smart comments to yourself.
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:18 PM   #5
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you can do that half easy with megasquirt. with the ford edis 6 set up
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Old 05-09-2009, 04:22 PM   #6
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Yeah, you can get a MegaSquirt and use it for spark only. Makes the assembly much easier too, if you leave off all the fuel injection components (assuming you want to build it yourself). You can take the coil pack off of a 3.3/3.8 Mopar V6 and use that. DIYAutoTune sells 36-1 trigger wheels, grab one of those and attach it to your crank pulley. Use a Neon crank sensor with it. Why the Neon crank sensor rather than a Ford VR sensor? Because the Neon crank sensor is a HEP style sensor. 3 wires, the signal that comes out of it is a clean digital signal, so you don't have to use the VR input circuits on the MS. Using the VR input circuits on the MS sucks, you have to adjust trim pots to get a clean tach signal, etc..
Anyways, you don't need the actual Ford EDIS module (or any Ford parts at all), you don't get spark cut when you use the Ford EDIS module.
Since you're just doing spark, just get an MS1 CPU, it'll do what you need very well with the MS1-Extra firmware on it.
You could do Coil On Plug with the MS too, but you'll either be stuck running the COP's in wasted spark mode, or you'll need to setup a second input and run a cam trigger (this is 3.0 only, 2.2/2.5 already has two inputs, so it can do single coil, wasted spark, or COP).. :) Hope that helps.
Well, UnaC. you just made my day, this is what I was waiting for long but didn't get any answers. I will be using MS on my 3.0 conv. and I will also turbo it.
I just hauled the car to my place this morning and I got an engine for it 30K for $100. Now I am waiting for my income tax return to get the front nose from a friend in Buffalo and start getting it all together. I don't have time for electronics now so I will buy the MSII assembled. There is also a holset lined up for it. I will need your help to set up all this, so will be bugging you a lot.:)
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I doubt there are any gains, a spark is a spark, just like all the BS ads that try to sell you platinum tipped spark plugs and expensive wires and coils.

Those things make very little gain if any.

As far as "simpler and easier" goes, if a distributor is too complicated for someone, they shouldn't be working on older cars! At least with a distributor you can adjust the base timing easily.
jezzz it was just a question you dick!!! oh and also i already know how to work on cars with distributors
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Old 05-09-2009, 06:49 PM   #8
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See Mac_17, he doesn't know how to use a laptop, it is easier to undo a bolt and turn the distributor one way or another to get close to the proper degrees.
It is a skill to flash and work with electronics isn't it?
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Old 05-10-2009, 11:05 AM   #9
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