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Old 12-03-2012, 09:45 AM   #3796
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Don't know why the first two aren't linked, can you only do one at a time?
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:31 AM   #3797
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SpeedyEd, your albums seem to be empty....
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:21 PM   #3798
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fixed!!!! can you take a pic with the cover off the motor? thanks!!
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Old 12-03-2012, 03:27 PM   #3799
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I'll try tomorrow, weather permitting.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:44 PM   #3800
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Topless engine photos waiting to be moderated. There is one more shot of the passenger mount, but I got a notice that I have to belong to a group to put the photo up. What's up with that?
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:28 AM   #3801
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Topless engine photos waiting to be moderated. There is one more shot of the passenger mount, but I got a notice that I have to belong to a group to put the photo up. What's up with that?
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I see why the motor sets funny in my car now!!! it is the shape of the frame it is sitting on! do you drive this van? as for the pics you may have filled up what your allowed in your album. the free membership has limits as to haw much you can store in the albums and personal massages. but when you become a paided member those limits are removed.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:39 AM   #3802
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The limit on photos says 60 pictures. I would be a paid member if they took credit cards, don't have Pay-Pal.
The van is not mine, it was left at a friends garage. It might have a plugged converter. I thought I had a deal on getting the engine, but now I'm getting a song & dance about someone else buying it.
It was to be sold for scrap when the scrap price goes up.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:12 AM   #3803
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Additional thoughts on the mounts. The frame mount looks to be bolted on & might be a starting point for a Shadow mount. The angle mounting may have been for firewall clearance. After all Mother Mopar tilted the slant six for hood clearance in the Valiant.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:00 PM   #3804
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well good news guys! UPS has finally paid for the damages and Ed has got my heads in hand! so after 2 months of paper work my heads can now be ported!!! I can't say anything bad about UPS. I have been using them for 5 years and this is the first time I have had a problem. I think all of the paper work is just to make sure I wasn't trying to scam them. I just wish it had gone a bit faster!!!
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:38 PM   #3805
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well good news guys! UPS has finally paid for the damages and Ed has got my heads in hand! so after 2 months of paper work my heads can now be ported!!! I can't say anything bad about UPS. I have been using them for 5 years and this is the first time I have had a problem. I think all of the paper work is just to make sure I wasn't trying to scam them. I just wish it had gone a bit faster!!!
I'm glad it finally worked out for you, now it's full steam ahead.
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:35 PM   #3806
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I'm glad it finally worked out for you, now it's full steam ahead.
well not really. not till I get the heads back!
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:21 AM   #3807
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Good to hear UPS really does come through if something gets damaged. Even if it does take them a bit to do it. Can't wait to see you start working on this again.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:54 PM   #3808
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Bobby asked me to post some updates on the porting of the heads for KnightMoves.

Last night I flow test a port in the test head. It flows very well, but it is NOISY... I think most of the noise was coming from casting defects under the seat... Some may be coming from some awkward transitions in the port itself.

I took an initial stab at porting. I reworked the bowl and cleaned up the transition under the seat. As a result the port quieted down and picked up a significant amount of flow!

There is a whistle that peaks around 0.030" lift. I think it is caused by the shrouding of the valve. Since Bobby is looking to decrease the compression ratio some, I will unshroud the valve to try and cure the whistle and further improve flow.

I also need to do a little more work on the short-side radius. Stock the SSR looks "lumpy" and protrudes into the port too much.

Bottom line, stock there is a lot of flow, but there are a lot of gains to be had in flow quantity and quality.


The big difference I noticed so far between the SOHC and DOHC 6G74 heads, the DOHC valve heads and stems are larger...

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Old 12-13-2012, 05:05 PM   #3809
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here is the stock flow charts from what I read.

VR4 heads....


Flow bench measurements, stock TT head, cfm
Valve Lift /Intake /Exhaust
0.100" / 86-93 /77-80
0.200" / 165-179 / 151-164
0.300" / 223-230 / 191-200
0.400" / 246-262 /195-216
0.500" / 249-256 / 196-219
Values from Barry King (Team3S) and Pat (aka PWR on 3SI).
Max vol. flow at 8000 RPM, 100% VE each cyl. bank = 210 cfm.

N/A heads.....

Flow bench measurements, stock NT head, cfm
Valve Lift /Intake /Exhaust
0.100" / 84.1 / 73.5
0.200" / 169.0 / 156.5
0.300" / 219.9 /185.4
0.400" / 233.3 / 191.1
Values from Paul Prentis (PPE Engineering LLC).
Max vol. flow at 8000 RPM, 100% VE each cyl. bank = 210 cfm.


how do the KIA heads compare to the Mitsubishi head? are they the same?
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:20 PM   #3810
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