key ignition problem please help

[waterbird808]

i guess in the morning when i turn the key it would start and when im driving around town stoping here and there thats when i start having the problem when starting the car up. when i turn my ignition to start it won't start but after three or four tries it start. it happens every time i park the car. it feels like its not getting enough energy or i would have to put pressure to push in and turn hard and it would staet. thanks for your to read it. james

[waterbird808]

sorry its a 89 2dr 5sp 2.5 turbo shadow

[NAJ]

The majority of electronics act up when they get hot due to excessive resistance in the circuit.
Your problem can be Battery,Cables,Starter,Starter Relay,Clutch Safety Switch, Ignition Switch or Dirty,Corroded,or Loose Connections in any of these circuits.
In order to help diagnois properly I need more info, Does it crank slowly or not at all? If it does not crank at all do you hear any "clicking noise" from under the hood? Do all of the lights dim when you attempt to start?

[waterbird808]

not at all, no clicks. it will start without pressing cluch down after couple tries turning ignition. it will do the same if i pressing the clutch down. james

[NAJ]

The first thing I would do is remove and clean the battery terminals and check to be sure the connections at the starter are tight and secure.
I had the same exact problem twice, turn the key and nothing and because the problem was intermittant and I could not duplicate the condition I replaced the starter relay and that was the problem both times.

[waterbird808]

thanks naj again. ill try that

[allmotor]

sure sounds like a nipendeso starter contact problem to me, but what do I know? parts to fix these starters are not available thru any of the chain parts stores nor thru chrysler dealers... they want to you buy a new starter. however Toyota dealers carry the repair parts takes 20 min to fix for less than $10

[NAJ]

I did not realize that both threads were yours or that you were in Hawaii.
If you can duplicate the problem and the Relay or cleaning the terminals does not correct the problem I will be happy to lead you thru diagnostics.
Either way let us know how you make out.

[NAJ]

allmotor, from everything I have seen on this site you know a lot so as far as I am concerned your input is Always Welcome and Appreciated,at least by me.

[charger R/T]

allmotor isn't just knowledgeable he can be funny too.
allmotor do you have a toyota part number or application to order the nippendenso parts?
Tim

[allmotor]

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Originally Posted by charger R/T allmotor isn't just knowledgeable he can be funny too. allmotor do you have a toyota part number or application to order the nippendenso parts? Tim

don't know the part number. it was several years ago I encountered this deal. I stumbled into it because our local dodge/chrysler dealer also is a toyota dealer. the parts manager is the BEST parts person I have ever encounterd in my 30 years in this business. She (yes she) hooked me up with yota parts. She was even laughing about how chrysler doesn't offer repair parts but toyota does. since then I found a cheaper source (national automotive in Shelbyville IN. I just ordered 5 sets for the cars and 3 for cummins trucks. total bill with shipping was $31 bucks.

[charger R/T]

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Originally Posted by allmotor don't know the part number. it was several years ago I encountered this deal. I stumbled into it because our local dodge/chrysler dealer also is a toyota dealer. the parts manager is the BEST parts person I have ever encounterd in my 30 years in this business. She (yes she) hooked me up with yota parts. She was even laughing about how chrysler doesn't offer repair parts but toyota does. since then I found a cheaper source (national automotive in Shelbyville IN. I just ordered 5 sets for the cars and 3 for cummins trucks. total bill with shipping was $31 bucks.

Thanks