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Old 09-15-2007, 07:12 PM   #16
 
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being that its hard for me to comprehend it sounds like i need to put it back. i was gonna use it for grocery but i just want it to make it easier for me when its time for repair and i wasn't gonna make it loud where i can't hear my radio. i need my radio.
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:32 PM   #17
 
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We are just saying that tampering with emission control devices is illegal.
In N.J on non OBD2 vehicles (1995 and older) at state inspection they open the hood and check for tampering and then the vehicle is run on a dyno under load to check exhaust emissions. I do not really think that state or federal inspectors are concerned with individuals,more with buisness's that are tampering although in N.J if you are pulled over and do not have a catalytic converter the vehicle can be impounded and N.J also has spot roadside inspection. I do not know what local and state laws are in Hawaii but you can sure check it online.
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:19 AM   #18
 
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Here is an answer to your question regarding the legality of removing your air pump system.

Can I get into trouble if I disconnect any of the emission controls on my engine?
Yes, if you get caught. No, if you don’t. But if you live in an area that requires periodic emissions testing, you probably won’t get past an emissions check with missing or disconnected emission controls.

WARNING: Federal law makes it illegal for ANYONE to tamper with, disconnect, remove or otherwise render inoperative ANY emissions-related control device. The Environmental Protection Agency and most states have actually been rather lax about enforcing this rule on motorists, but they haven’t hesitated to nail professional service facilities that have been guilty of tampering. Even so, the fines can be hefty. A violation may make you liable for up to a $2,500 fine!

No Tampering
The federal anti-tampering law does not, however, apply to race cars that are not operated on the street, other full-time off-road vehicles, show cars that are not street driven, or vehicles not factory equipped with emission controls (most 1967 and earlier vehicles). So that exempts all antique cars, and most classic cars and muscle cars.

Revisions to the Clean Air Act in 1990 further broadened the definition of emissions tampering to include virtually ANY type of engine or exhaust system modification that alters what comes out the tailpipe. That means any nonstock aftermarket part that is installed on your engine must be EPA-approved and emissions legal (except on the exempt vehicles previously noted).

Before the law was revised in 1990, it was only illegal for professional mechanics to remove or disconnect emission control devices. There was nothing to prevent a motorist from tampering with their own vehicles. That loophole has since been plugged.

What Is Emissions-legal?
Any of the following may be considered emissions tampering and get you into trouble:

Removing the EGR valve or plugging its vacuum lines
Removing or disconnecting the PCV valve
Removing the stock air cleaner and heat riser duct plumbing
Removing the catalytic converter
Removing or disconnecting the air pump
Removing or modifying the stock distributor vacuum advance/retard
Altering the stock ignition advance mechanism or timing curve
Replacing the stock distributor with an aftermarket unit that is not emissions certified
Modifying, removing or replacing the stock computer or PROM chip with a non-certified component
Blocking the heat riser duct under the intake manifold
Knocking out the filler restrictor on the fuel tank inlet pipe
Replacing the stock non-vented gas cap with a vented cap
Removing or disconnecting the fuel vapor recovery canister
Changing the idle mixture or stock carburetor jetting
Removing or modifying the carburetor choke
Modifying or replacing the carburetor accelerator pump with non-certified components
Installing an intake manifold or racing manifold that lacks provisions for the stock EGR valve and/or a heat riser duct
Installing a carburetor that lacks the stock emission hookups
Installing non-certified fuel injectors
Installing a long duration "racing" cam that is not emissions-certified
Installing exhaust headers that lack provisions for a heat riser valve, an air cleaner preheat stove or fittings for an oxygen sensor (if required)
Installing valve covers with open breathers or no fittings for a PCV valve
Installing any induction, fuel or ignition system component that is NOT emissions legal

Aftermarket parts manufacturers who make nonstock performance parts for engines, the fuel, ignition or exhaust systems must apply for special certification for any parts they want to sell as being emissions-legal. The California Air Resources Board (CARB) has been the leading government body in this respect, so most submit their proposals to CARB.

First, they must submit detailed proof in the form of laboratory dyno test that document their part does not have an adverse effect on exhaust emissions. These tests are very expensive and must conform with specified test procedures. CARB then reviews the data and may or may not ask for additional information and/or testing. If the product meets CARB’s criteria, CARB issues an "executive order" (EO) number (also called an "exemption" number) certifying that the part is in compliance with the applicable clean air rules.

An EO number means the component can be legally manufactured, distributed, sold and installed on a street driven vehicle in the state of California. It also means the component is legally acceptable in all 50 states because the federal Environmental Protection Agency also recognizes the CARB exemption program as meeting their "Memorandum 1A" requirements for certifying emissions legal parts.

Buying Emissions-legal Parts
Virtually all stock replacement parts are emissions-legal regardless of who makes them. But if you’re buying any nonstock performance parts, heed the following to make sure you’re "safe" from an emissions standpoint:

* Look for wording on the box that says the product is emissions legal or emissions certified for street use in compliance with the EPA and/or CARB rules.

* Look for the EO (executive order) exemption number issued by the California Air Resources Board on the box, product or in the catalog. Remember, the product must have an EO number to be street legal.

* If there is no EO number and one is required to be street-legal, it cannot be legally installed on a street-driven vehicle. Period.
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:05 PM   #19
 
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I was nearly in a bind when I had to locate a EGR valve for mine, but dealer pulled through when they found compatiable EGR valve. Everything are in place except the air pump when I had to replace camshaft.

BTW, rebuilt air pump costs 200 or more plus acceptable core (only get you very little for the core charge.) :P

But pay heed to the emissions rules for your provinces or states.

I do still will keep PCV, EGR and emissions vapor recovery stuff in place when I swap out for custom 2.5 hybrid in the future with fuel injection.

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