New to Mopar..

[OMNIproject]

Plus between the 2.2 and the 2.5, which is more desireable?

[EvilcowRoland]

Mid-80's LeBaron could mean a lot of things. Is it an 86 K-car with log intake? Is it an early J-body with log intake? Is it a later J with 1-piece intake? The LeBaron had a lot of options along the way. It'd be good to find out as much about the car as you can.

The 2.2 is the high revving motor while the 2.5 is the torque monster. It's really a matter of preference. In a light car like the Omni, you'd probably want the 2.2 since you're going to have traction issues already. I prefer the 2.5 in heavy cars like the Daytona for that off-the-line grunt. But they're both plenty capable and if you're leaving them mostly stock then it really doesn't matter.

[OMNIproject]

If i were to find out exactly what kind of lebaron this came out of and learned all of the specs of it, what would it take to hook it up? Would i have to get a main wire harness out of another vehicle/ecm out of another vehicle, engine mounts, transmission, etc? A for mentioned harness out of a caravan comes to mind in this same thread

[EvilcowRoland]

If it's a pre-88 engine, you'll need a pre-88 harness and computer setup OR you'll need to switch the intake and related sensors over to the later style. I would've thought a minivan harness wouldn't be a good choice because the bulkhead connector is on the firewall of the minivan whereas yours is up in the dash (minivan's is too short). But whatever car you pull the wiring harness from, get the computer and all the relays/sensors with it. The only real difference between cars (other than the minivan) is the lighting and accessories subharnesses. You can always modify a harness to work in your car, but it's obvioulsy easier to get one from the same model so it's plug and play.

Engine mounts and trans mounts are specific to your car I think. I'm not terribly familiar with the L-bodies, but I know the axles and a few other oddities are for that car only, so the mounts being specific wouldn't shock me. Your car being a 90 model has the larger axles already, so that's good. You can toss in just about any turbo trans and be okay.

[OMNIproject]

Im looking around, generally on ebay at the moment and not haveing very good luck finding any main wire harnesses, let alone for a turbo minivan. Does anyone know of anyone or anywhere that i can start looking and pricing them out? Or mabey someone you know that knows where i can get one out of a omni? Plug and Play instead of modification.

[turbomini]

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Originally Posted by EvilcowRoland I would've thought a minivan harness wouldn't be a good choice because the bulkhead connector is on the firewall of the minivan whereas yours is up in the dash (minivan's is too short). .

i know this harness will work. i've persaly done this convertion.. and the omni has the same plug as a mini van. the only thing that will not work is the wippers but they are easy to rewire. my 90 omni in this thread my RWD omni project. it ran just fine..

[turbomini]

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Originally Posted by OMNIproject Im looking around, generally on ebay at the moment and not haveing very good luck finding any main wire harnesses, let alone for a turbo minivan. Does anyone know of anyone or anywhere that i can start looking and pricing them out? Or mabey someone you know that knows where i can get one out of a omni? Plug and Play instead of modification.

plug and play if thats the case get a 86 to 88 TURBO NEW YORKER harness and it'll be a plug and play type thing!

[EvilcowRoland]

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Originally Posted by turbomini i know this harness will work. i've persaly done this convertion.. and the omni has the same plug as a mini van. the only thing that will not work is the wippers but they are easy to rewire. my 90 omni in this thread my RWD omni project. it ran just fine..

As I said, I don't know a lot about the L-bodies. I just know the minivan harness plugs into the firewall and it won't work for G/J/etc cars.

[turbomini]

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Originally Posted by EvilcowRoland As I said, I don't know a lot about the L-bodies. I just know the minivan harness plugs into the firewall and it won't work for G/J/etc cars.

first you have a PM.
under standable on the omni thing it took me awhile to figure out how to repin the harness to make the wippers work..

[OMNIproject]

I have been looking all over for a wire harness for this engine cause i decided to buy it. Its going to be a while until i put it in, but i want to aquire all the things i need and i am striking out for now.. i guess i gotta keep my eyes open for a while and re-build the engine over time because it is my daily driver/gas saver car. I own 3 vehicles and they all always turn into sort of a project no matter what, i got a 90' S-10 lowrider, a 98' Blazer 4x4 offroaded-out, and now this omni that i want to turbo out.. sigh. I love it all, and it never seems to end and probly never will right? Any suggestions on what i should do? Anything with the rotating assembly? Port and Polishing? Milling the head for higher compression? etc.. Again this is my first OHC vehicle, go easy on me!

[The Pope]

88-89 Dodge Shadow turbo is the best harness to use for fit, then you need to find the wiring break down to connect it to the car at the 50 pin. I would also run a 87-89 Shelby Daytona engine and intercooler set. Shorten it where needed and get it running near stock. New timing belt and MP head gasket and metal turbo lines. Then also from FWD performance run there stage 3 drop in computer. Don't mess with the engine yet, other than a stock rebuild with only Mahle pistons or forged. Get it in and running. Then you'll like the car more and the bug to finish it will take over. You tear it down and try some huge build and it could be down till you run out of intrest. Besides, the SLH brake mod and syspension is needed.

BTW I am a mechanical dyslectic and it jacks my IQ to 157 but only in math and engineering, then it murdered my english skills. I will never be able to spell and write well my whole life =P

[OMNIproject]

I paid 200 bucks for the complete motor and he threw in 5 fenders, a set of GLH rims and a "Big Brake Kit" with it. Mabey that is what the SLH Brake kit is? I havent picked the stuff up yet, i'll let ya know when i do.. I thought it was a good deal, especially since this kind of thing had been done before, makes the curiousity go crazy and the wallet go empty :-) . Don't worry about the spelling at all man, i'm no wiz at it either. Im enclined in the GM stuff, mostly push-rod-naturally asperiated engines.. Thanks for all the information though. Will the engine bolt right up, engine mounts and all?

[EvilcowRoland]

$200 for all that does seem like a good deal. You could pay $200 just for the engine or the GLH wheels by themselves.

The engine itself will drop in space-wise. You should be able to use the motor mounts off of your TBI engine. Just get new rubber inserts for them when you put the turbo engine in.

[turbomini]

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Originally Posted by EvilcowRoland $200 for all that does seem like a good deal. You could pay $200 just for the engine or the GLH wheels by themselves. The engine itself will drop in space-wise. You should be able to use the motor mounts off of your TBI engine. Just get new rubber inserts for them when you put the turbo engine in.

^is right you got a good deal! and you have to use YOUR omni mounts.. you'll just have to swap everything off your motor onto this one.

[OMNIproject]

Thats good to know! Now i just gotta find a good deal on a wire harness from a 88-89 shadow turbo, in which ThePope suggested. if anyone knows of one, let me know!