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Old 10-12-2008, 02:58 PM   #1
Question what's wrog?  
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Hey guys and gals, I probably don't want to hear the answer to this ? but, i have a 86 ti 2.2 car with about 91k on it, the car runs good, but i know 1 cylinder is down on compression. but here latley some bad stuff going on. noticed little whisp of smoke coming from around the oil dipstick, pull the dipstick and more smoke, also if you take the oil filler cap off same smoke, also found some oil in the breather, the pvc still rattled though, replaced pvc, filter, breather filter etc. still have the smoke at dipstick and the filler cap, total rebuild ? or somthing i am missing? thanks, the truth is always painful and probably exspensive but i can handle it! can't even spell, what's wrong not what's wrog?

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Old 10-12-2008, 04:46 PM   #2
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Hi whiskyman, the answer is in your assessment of the engine compression.

The red flag is being waved like crazy by smoke coming from around the oil dipstick & more smoke if you take the oil filler cap.
What you can do is a single cylinder re-ring and be done in 8 hours or less.
1. Remove the exhaust pipe from the exhaust manifold ( if not easy to do, grab a sawzall and cut the pipe off close to the flange - any independent muffler shop will weld it back together for you and generally at no cost to you.)
2. drain the water out of the block & radiator
3. pull the cylinder head and the oil pan.(drain pan and remove filter first)
3b. use 120/180 grit wet/dry sand paper by hand to smooth the bottom side of the ridge in the cylinder (closest to the piston)
4. remove the rod cap on #1 piston / first mark the nuts with a white marker at the non contact face.
5. place fuel line rubber hose over both rod bolts to prevent scarring the crankshaft
5b. use a long narrow block of plastic with a 90 degree edge to bump the upper bearing shell out of the con rod.
6. rotate the crank pin to 12 o clock and then continue rotating to 5 or 7 o clock.
7. use a wood hammer handle (rounded edges) to bump the rod & piston up away form the crank and out of the block.
8. remove the rings and snap off one of the rings to use as a ring groove cleaner to scrape carbon build up.
9. Make a mix of 45% diesel fuel and 55% 30 wt motor oil / One gallon milk container or plastic pail.
10. Rent or buy a berry cylinder hone and a Ryobi 2 speed 18 V drill with a1/2 inch chuck
11. cover the crank journal with one thick rag tied to crank journal so it wont fall off.
12. dip the berry hone into the oil fuel mix & slowly spin the hone to thoroughly coat it
12b remove the drill
12c slip the hone in to the cylinder all he way to the bottom of the hole and put a red marker on the hone shaft to indicate the maximum depth of the hone so you don’t come into contact with the crank.
12d Re attach the drill – set on High speed and hone with the hone position cycling top to bottom and back up to top every 1 seconds
12e. do this 4 – 5 cycles. Then remove hone.
12f. re dunk into the gallon of mix and spin it to clean metal off berry stones then re insert into the cylinder and repeat for 4 to 5 more cycles then remove – you are nearly done.
13 use a clean rag soaked in the mix and wipe the cylinder twice.
13b. with the cylinder wet with the mix use 320 grit wet/dry sand paper by hand to smooth the bore ( sand using a circular motion – never up and down the bore) ) sand all bore surface twice then wipe the bore with clean rag soaked in the mix
13c. with the cylinder wet with the mix use use 400 grit wet/dry sand paper by hand to smooth the bore ( sand using a circular motion – never up and down the bore) sand all bore surface twice then wipe the bore with clean rag soaked in the mix
14 Most important – spray WD-40 liberally to the bore & wipe bore down with a clean white cotton bed sheet of 12” x 12” pieces continuing to spray and wipe till the pieces of bed sheet come up with no discoloration.
14b. spray down the crank counter weights then remove the rag from the journal and continue to spray and wipe and spray & wipe clean the honing debris.
14c. Use New molly rings on the piston – coat the ring in 30Wt oil
14d re-use old bearing shells, if appearance is good
14e. use 90 wt oil on the crank journal
15 reassemble using new head gasket (clean the cyl head surface of old gasket material)
15b. use new head bolts coated with sealer
16 re-use old rod cap nuts (white side away from the cap – just like you took them off)
17 use silicone to reseal the oil pan (clean oil off surfaces first)
18 new oil filter and 4 ½ to 5 qts of Valvoline 10-40 oil

Quik fix until it is time for full overhaul.
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Old 10-12-2008, 05:12 PM   #3
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^uuuumm, how much smoke are we talking? alot? like burning oil like crazy? or just like after driving you pop the oil fill cap and theres some smoke/steam that creeps out?
if its just a bit of smoke in the valve cover after driving its nothing and totaly normal, every car will do that. if its ALOT of smoke, then maby its bad rings or a head gasket.
but first, how much smoke are we talking about?
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Old 10-12-2008, 07:34 PM   #4
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well the smoke does not seem to stop if you leave the dipstick out, and it not used to smoke at all, seeing as 1 cyl in down on compression, as 87 shebycharger sugest, time for temp fix or put the car down for the winter and freshen it up. thanks again for the input
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