Lets talk 2.2 TII

[dklimek]

Just picked up a 89 i think, may be a 90, "mazerati" lebaron. Unfortunately its the auto 2v...but anyways, when i got the car it hadnt been started/driven for SIX YEARS. The plastic vacuum lines were cracked to shit, so i started replacing it with rubber lines for now. So i was wondering if we can put a fmic on our cars? What are you guys doing as far as downpipes? What do you do with all the vacuum lines if you pull out the plastic air box? And lastly..i have read about people putting a MBC in these cars and for high boost they add a injector into the upper intercooler pipe...anyone know about this? Im guessing i dont need to mess with my BOV as it sounds like it has one on it stock?

Sorry for the barrage of questions but this is a hot rod guy that has stepped into a whole different world of cars.

[turboprelude92]

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Originally Posted by dklimek Just picked up a 89 i think, may be a 90, "mazerati" lebaron. Unfortunately its the auto 2v...but anyways, when i got the car it hadnt been started/driven for SIX YEARS. The plastic vacuum lines were cracked to shit, so i started replacing it with rubber lines for now. So i was wondering if we can put a fmic on our cars? What are you guys doing as far as downpipes? What do you do with all the vacuum lines if you pull out the plastic air box? And lastly..i have read about people putting a MBC in these cars and for high boost they add a injector into the upper intercooler pipe...anyone know about this? Im guessing i dont need to mess with my BOV as it sounds like it has one on it stock? Sorry for the barrage of questions but this is a hot rod guy that has stepped into a whole different world of cars.

if you want a good intercooler, then alot of people go with the spearco or turboXS
you can find a few on ebay, but idk about there quality.

Welcome to FWD Performance, Inc. is an awesome site.
you can also buy a quasi downpipe, or just have one made with a flange at an exhaust shop.
a good BOV that is very cheap is the 1G dsm. from a talon or eclipse.
you can usually find one at your local junkyard.

[dklimek]

Cool man appreciate it...has anyone thought of putting a stock SRT-4 FMIC on? I can pick one up for 40 bucks..but idk if it would be a performance gain over the intercooler i have now even though its not a fmic it still seems pretty sizeable.

Also, i have decided there are wayyy to many damn vacuum lines on this thing...im searching now but im also trying to get the car done today so i might as well ask here, what can/cant i remove on this thing vacuumwise?

[dklimek]

Ttt

[EvilcowRoland]

For starters, the TC is not a LeBaron. It is built on the same basic platform, but the body is mostly hand-made and shares no parts with the LeBaron. History -> Chrysler's TC by Maserati cars. Makes it hard to find parts I'd imagine.

You can eliminate a good portion of the extra vacuum lines. There have been dozens on threads on the best ways to do it if you do a search. From the intake vacuum source you need lines to the MAP sensor, Fuel Pressure Regulator, and a line to the turbo wastegate (which would also be where your manual boost controller goes). You may also want lines for the BOV and boost gauge. For the PCV system and the lines off the back of the intake to the boost controller, just follow the diagram under the hood (or one on the web).

You can only run 14.7 PSI max with the stock electronics. Your fuel system should be able to handle that as-is assuming it is working properly. To go beyond that boost level, you need to switch to a 3-bar MAP with computer or fool the MAP you have with a diode. Always be careful going over stock boost. Use an A/F gauge and check your plugs.

An SRT intercooler is better than the stock T2 units (and better than none at all) but there are better ones out there.

Be careful putting a lot of power to that auto trans. It's a tough unit, but it wasn't designed for the torque that high boost will generate.

[dklimek]

Ahh very interesting read there evil!! Thats kinda cool but idk if i would go as far as considering it a mazerati...it will always be a lebaron to me lol!! I had searched shortly after i made this thread and have been like HELL for any question i have had aside from the front mounts, but i guess there arent too many fmic'ed lebarons. Had to get a new gas tank as mine was way too rusty and suprisingly its the same tank as every other lebaron. I need to pick up a vacuum block for this thing but i just cant seem to find one at any local parts store like advanced or autozone any thoughts aside from odering off the internet? If i got a adjustable FPR and a wideband with a fmic would it be a problem if i ran 20psi on the stock turbo/injectors?

[dklimek]

TTT...After a new tank, fuel assembly, fuel filter and all new rubber lines the car FINALLY runs and will boost past 4psi!!! Its a damn fun little car, now time for plugs and a manual boost controller!!

Still was wondering about the 20psi on stock injectors/turbo with a fmic.

[DaytOmni]

I wouldn't do it. Not enough fuel at high boost operation sounds like a recipe for holes in your pistons. Scan the classifieds and scoop some +20's, or if your going crazy, scoop some +40's. Better to be poor and run rich, then to run lean and (BOOM) become poor. Neither of these sets of injectors will leave you really strapped, (especially from the classifieds section).

[DaytOmni]

Also read Adding an extra injector


This should answer your questions about adding a fifth injector. Alot of people do it, but in my opinion its very Mickey Mouse, or even, MacGuyver (with the mullet to match). The safest way to keep those pistons cool is just buying a new set of injectors.

[dklimek]

Haha yea idk how exactly i feel about it but i figure it would be a cheap way to go if i ever decided to go over 14lbs with the car. Im sure i can afford some injectors now but idk what i would be looking at when i have to get a new computer price or computerwise lol. I dont want to have a ton of problems trying to dial the car in with a new computer either, what would i be looking at if i decided to do a Megasquirt setup?

[GLHNSLHT2]

A buddy has a TC MaSerati (SSSSSSS Not Z) with the 2.2 8v/automatic setup. He Bolted in a FWDP 2 bar calibration and it really woke the car up even though everything else is stock. Nice little cruising car. Not something I'd modify for speed to much though.

[GLHNSLHT2]

Also you can't just bolt in bigger injectors, you'll flood the car out and kill the motor. Read Donovan's Dodge Garage, and check out Results Driven Inc. Rick is one of the TC guru's out there.