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Old 09-24-2003, 03:54 PM   #1
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somthing is really wrong now! if im drivin and i get on it over 5psi it WILL NOT pull much at all... and over 10 it seems like it slows down... then accelerates slowly (doesnt have to do anything with speed or rpm... it seems) .... and i can hear the exhaust sounding very strange then.... sounds almost like its running too rich or somthing.... it just doesnt fire.... like cutout but not as hard or violent as it slows down. its only when my car is warmed up and im really driving it hard for a bit. and i noticed now my car idles at 20 vac. insted of 18 or so and it doesnt really sound any different.... no different tapping..... i know my cam timing is off possibley ignition timing too. but it wasnt near as bad until now. anyone have any ideas? i really need my car right now. exhaust? timing? fuel pressure?! thanks.

its stock exhaust. and 14psi with a grainger, no intercooler
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triple check ur timing
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Old 09-24-2003, 04:23 PM   #3
 
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Check the cam timing first! Probably jumped a couple teeth.
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Check the cam timing first! Probably jumped a couple teeth.
im figuring that... but could checking the igniton timing first hurt anything? and can i check the ignition timing with the turbo disconnected? thanks
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it is just as easy to check the cam timing as it is the ignition, the cam timing will affect the ignition timing, but not vice-versa.
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yeah if it was off a bit before it may be way off now, possibly jumped another tooth or two. if you get that all good and it's still messed then you know it's not the timing and can look somwhere else. easiest way to check if cam timing is off is to line piston 1 at TDC and check to see if the hole on the cam sprocket is lined straight up and down with the block, all you have to do is look through the little hole on the upper cover and see if you can also see through the cam sprocket hole.

to get piston 1 at TDC use a 1/2" drive ratchet with i believe it's a 15mm socket. turn it by hand until, with the #1 plug out and using a flashlight you can see that the piston is as high as it can go. you may have to crank it around twice just to see where the piston is at it's highest.

if you take the upper timing belt cover off, you will also be able to see exactly how far off it is once you get #1 at TDC
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im figuring that... but could checking the igniton timing first hurt anything? and can i check the ignition timing with the turbo disconnected? thanks
why would you have the turbo "disconnected"? you just gotta do it at idle. having the turbo hose not connected may affect vacuum and in turn have a different idle, i don't know exactly but just clamp the hose back on and do it, then you'll know it's been done right.
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im figuring that... but could checking the igniton timing first hurt anything? and can i check the ignition timing with the turbo disconnected? thanks
timing is at 8* at below center on the temp gauge.... its getting cooler because the fan is on and the hood is open. and it would idle at 1200rpm or so unless you turn the steering wheel a bit to bring the rpm down. and it stayed the same at 8* should i adjust it and take it for a ride and see if its better? sound like that could be the problem? thanks guys
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timing is at 8* at below center on the temp gauge
if you unplugged the coolent temp sensor, which you have to do, then the temp of the car does not matter. it's on the thermostat housing and is the only sensor on there
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if you unplugged the coolent temp sensor, which you have to do, then the temp of the car does not matter. it's on the thermostat housing and is the only sensor on there
yeah i did that. if not the timing will be bouncing around and thats no good. but what do i loosen (wheres the bolt) to turn the distributor?
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yeah i did that. if not the timing will be bouncing around and thats no good. but what do i loosen (wheres the bolt) to turn the distributor?
how is the cam timing?
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how is the cam timing?
i dont know yet. ill worry about that next
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