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08-10-2007, 10:35 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Niagara Falls, ON.
My Ride: '88 Plymouth Voyager
Engine: 3.0 V6
Induct: N/A
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You might have some hiccups over the next week with the tranny, but by the end of 2 weeks it should be as good as it's going to get, which in every case I've used it, has been close to perfect, better in fact, seems to tighten shifts over stock. I'm starting to put it in "good" trannies now.
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08-10-2007, 10:58 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: illinois
My Ride: 1991 Shadow E.S.
Engine: 2.5
Induct: N/A
1/4: 0.000
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the oil stabilizer is a great product, and that old fashioned spinny wheel is nonsense.. lol.. It's nothing more than pure refined petroulium and will not harm a thing.. I've used it in all of my cars, and works great, and I do notice a difference in the clarity of the oil when changing it.
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08-10-2007, 10:36 PM
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Show me your g-valve
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Upper Peninsula, Michigan
My Ride: '89Baron, '04Stratus
Engine: 2.5
Induct: Turbo
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ill keep everyone updated, but for now im impressed....it didnt do anything yet for the cold 2-3 non shift...lol, but once its wamred up it seems like a much happier tranny...
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08-12-2007, 08:29 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
My Ride: '88 Shelby Z TII
Engine: 2.2 TII
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 14.284
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I personally wouldn't use the oil stabilizer in anything other than a diesel. Oil arleady gets aerated pretty bad in our engines spinning at only 3K. What do you think is going to happen with that stuff!? If somebody thinks oil aeration is nonsense, then you really have never expereinced it. It is real, it does happen. That stuff WILL make it worse!
I think it is great for low speed gearboxes and diesels...where you need to get oil "up" to certain parts that are only splash fed or something. For a pressurized system, I think it isn't needed and can do more harm than good.
I've got three friends who use it in their cars. True, none have had any "major" issues that we can directly relate to it(2000 Msutang GT spit a rocker and some other related damage due to a missed shift, 1997 Firebird threw 3 rods...unknown circumstances, 1991 Spirit ES keeps going through turbos), but I think their cars would also be better off without it. That's MHO.
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08-12-2007, 09:27 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: illinois
My Ride: 1991 Shadow E.S.
Engine: 2.5
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Drop em an email and find out the airation concerns. Would Be interesting.
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08-12-2007, 10:36 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Jacksonville FL
My Ride: 1991 Daytona CS
Engine: 2.5 ltr
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 15.800
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Originally Posted by Reaper1
I personally wouldn't use the oil stabilizer in anything other than a diesel. Oil arleady gets aerated pretty bad in our engines spinning at only 3K. What do you think is going to happen with that stuff!? If somebody thinks oil aeration is nonsense, then you really have never expereinced it. It is real, it does happen. That stuff WILL make it worse!
I think it is great for low speed gearboxes and diesels...where you need to get oil "up" to certain parts that are only splash fed or something. For a pressurized system, I think it isn't needed and can do more harm than good.
I've got three friends who use it in their cars. True, none have had any "major" issues that we can directly relate to it(2000 Msutang GT spit a rocker and some other related damage due to a missed shift, 1997 Firebird threw 3 rods...unknown circumstances, 1991 Spirit ES keeps going through turbos), but I think their cars would also be better off without it. That's MHO.
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Well if thats the case than how come we dont have a junk yard in our back yards with cars that dont run, and none of the cars you mentioned had anything to do with oil stablizers,
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08-13-2007, 01:00 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Paris, TX/Deltona FL
My Ride: Daytona Tubo Z C/S
Engine: 2.2 Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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It seems to run perfectly fine in the motor in my Daytona. The engine itself is from an 84 Daytona I had, and has never been apart. It's original down to the turbo & has never had a problem. I've always put shell rotella oil in it, and when I put the car back on the road a couple years ago after an 7 or so year hiatus I put Lucas in it with fresh oil & a filter.
My truck's been running Lucas products since 1998 or 1999 & haven't had a problem yet. Currently it's got Lucas products in the power steering, engine, trans, and rear end.
I can see ultra high pressure aeration being a problem, like in the HEUI setup on the powerstrokes.. but then, they had problems with that with just regular oil.
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08-13-2007, 05:48 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Jacksonville, FL
My Ride: 88 Daytona C/S
Engine: 2.2 Turbo I
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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I run Lucas is everything I own. I have yet to have anything break or had any problems due to the use of it. In my SRT-4 I have been running the synthetic Lucas. It's a little more expensive but I figure a little more money now will save me alot more money latter.
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08-13-2007, 03:53 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: illinois
My Ride: 1991 Shadow E.S.
Engine: 2.5
Induct: N/A
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Ha.. got an answer back from lucas oil products.. And this is one directly from him.. lol.. Good stuff. of
authentic Lucas Oil Testimonials that came into us from cycle riders.
They
are having great results with Lucas in their Harleys and this is
contrary to
the HO of the writer you quote. If you still have doubt about our lack
of
"testing" I'd suggest tuning in to NHRA or any racing program and look
for
the presence of Lucas. We've had many other testimonials where a
cooler
line or oil pump was lost and a machine finished the last few laps or
100yds
without oil or oil pressure. Checks of bearings for damage were
negative
and all that was needed was to button them up and refill with Lucas Oil
and
Oil Stabilizer. If this fellow thinks that he was running some high
RPM he
really doesn't know what high is all about. There's nothing really
"humble"
about this man's opinion but I guess we all feel that way. The one
thing
lacking is a real knowledge of what Lucas does in terms of lubrication
under
extreme conditions.
Thanks again,
John Mingus
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08-13-2007, 06:06 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
My Ride: '88 Shelby Z TII
Engine: 2.2 TII
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 14.284
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My "junk yard" has nothing to do with oil issues either, though. 2 parts cars(neither ran when I got them), 1 car with tranny problems, 1 car that has a rod knock for unknown reasons(still has oil pressure), 1 project car that techincally "should" run if it had fuel, and 1 project car that's in a million peices...origional problem was caused by bad tuning.
I am not, nor have I ever claimed to be an expert in oil or oil aditives, I just stated my opinion based on personal experiences in my own trade and the knowledge of what that stuff does based on their claims and what I've seen.
As for them saying their stuff is used in sanctioned racing events...*maybe*. MOST sanctioning bodies(NHRA, IHRA, SCCA, IRL, NASCAR, ect.) do NOT allow any sort of oil aditive to be used in competition. This does depend on class, and could depend on the event.
Claims are just that, what they say their product can do. Testimonies mean diddly to me unless it's coming from a 3rd party engineering firm that knows how to properly test the product. Give me real proof with all information about the testing diclosed and then I'll make my decision.
As for me, I'm using Royal Purple with no additives.
So far people haven't said they've had any problems with it. Great. I hope that trend continues! I'm just giving my opinion...you can like it, or not. *shrugs*
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08-13-2007, 06:44 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Paris, TX/Deltona FL
My Ride: Daytona Tubo Z C/S
Engine: 2.2 Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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We changed out to Royal Purple in a friends Mustang a couple years ago. Full treatment. . Engine, trans, and rear got their stuff. Seems like really good stuff. I'm still partial to shell rotella in everything though.. it's got more ZDDP than most other oils.
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