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Old 08-08-2007, 12:57 AM   #1
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Ok, i am not a fan of adding ANYTHING to any of the fluids in my car....stop leaks, motor honeys, magic compressionrestoringrearmainsealingheadgasketwithv irginblood in a can, etc....if it was meant to be in there, the factory would have used it, has always been my philosophy, but now i have a couple questions...

1. the power steering treatment they have. anyone ever try it...not for the stop leak, but ever since i have had my lebaron, it has had "loud" power steering...the rack i believe was replaced when i bough the car, but i dont think the pump was....though i dont know the symptons of a "going pump" i was going to try some of it in there to see if it helps for now at all...it mostly makes noise when the car is sitting and i turn the wheel...it doesnt really liek that much..lol

2. the tranny treatment...my tranny has been acting up since last summer, 1-2 shift is nice, 2-3 doesnt happen till the car warms up a bit or i hammer it (i.e. abotu 45 mph in the city to get it to hit 3rd in the morning) not good. after that it shifts up and down fine...well usually..sometimes doesnt care for 2-1 unless i slow down completely, and even when i stop once in a while it wont downshift...under light accel it shifts beautifully once warmed up, and under heaver accel it usually does too..but moderate accel 1-2 is perfect, but 2-3 sometimes takes 2 seconds or so, and a rev or 500 or so during shifting (4-4500k)....so anyone try the tranny stuff?

both the pump, and the tranny will be replaced this winter, so im only trying to get a month or three out of the car this summer....and i know the tranny is going...just looking for a bandaide...lol, but not wanting to make it worse
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I've had good luck with their products.

One of my best friends was a sales rep for a while, and his father is a distributor for Lucas across 4 states. They talked me into trying their fuel additive in my F-250 diesel, and I noticed a little difference. I had one injector that was a little sticky at times, and it cleared it up, the actual diesel "clatter" changed, and I got a mileage improvement in a couple tanks of fuel.

Afterwards I started adding their oil stabilizer at every oil change, and graduated to trying other products as time progressed. When I dropped the new trans in the Daytona it got a bottle of stabilizer right off the bat.

Big truck drivers swear by the stuff, so it can't be that bad. I doubt many of them would use a product if it wasn't some sort of help. They've even got a line of synthetic oils out, but I haven't tried those. For now I'm sticking to Shell Rotella & Lucas stabilizer.
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You may only have Air in the P/S System,Running a System on a Low Fluid Level will Damage the Pump.Try Bleeding the System.

PROCEDURE - POWER STEERING PUMP - INITIAL OPERATION
WARNING: THE FLUID LEVEL SHOULD BE CHECKED WITH ENGINE OFF TO PREVENT INJURY FROM MOVING COMPONENTS.

CAUTION: MOPARŪ ATF+4 is to be used in the power steering system. No other power steering or automatic transmission fluid is to be used in the system. Damage may result to the power steering pump and system if any other fluid is used, and do not overfill.

Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.

Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid settle for at least two minutes.
Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid level remains constant after running the engine.
Raise the front wheels off the ground.
Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the wheel stops at least 20 times.
Check the fluid level add if necessary.
Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly from lock to lock.
Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period. This may cause pump damage
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The transmission fix is awesome. Got 60,000 km so far out of a Tempo that had slipping and shifting issues.
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:22 PM   #5
 
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You may only have Air in the P/S System,Running a System on a Low Fluid Level will Damage the Pump.Try Bleeding the System.

PROCEDURE - POWER STEERING PUMP - INITIAL OPERATION
WARNING: THE FLUID LEVEL SHOULD BE CHECKED WITH ENGINE OFF TO PREVENT INJURY FROM MOVING COMPONENTS.

CAUTION: MOPARŪ ATF+4 is to be used in the power steering system. No other power steering or automatic transmission fluid is to be used in the system. Damage may result to the power steering pump and system if any other fluid is used, and do not overfill.

Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.

Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid settle for at least two minutes.
Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid level remains constant after running the engine.
Raise the front wheels off the ground.
Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the wheel stops at least 20 times.
Check the fluid level add if necessary.
Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly from lock to lock.
Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period. This may cause pump damage

ill try that, but i dont ever remember the level changing much....
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I'm not a fan of additives either but I've used their power steering additive twice (one Jeep Liberty and one TM) both with surprisingly good results. The bottle says that it should quite the pump immediately upon adding the product and in both of my uses the bottle was pretty much dead on.
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Hey its worth a shot ive seen trannys with sticking valves, governors come around with that stuff believe it or not, I mean im not gonna stick it in a car thats missing a gear or nothin but in your case I cant see it hurting anything
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I've used the PS additive and the Trans additive with good results. Lucas started out in the big rig/trucking industry. I've had great luck with their products.

The Trans stuff works great, but obviously, if the trans seals are shot, it probably won't do much.

Their PS additive has been in my plow truck for a few years now...I bought a new pump and steering box for the truck, but haven't had the need to install them yet...and the plow truck generally takes a beating.
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I've had good luck with the tranny stuff.

I put it in my TBI auto tranny and it stopped the shift flare. Of course, it's only a band-aid on the jugular, so to speak. But it helps for now.
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im basicaly only looking for some band aids since each winter i tear a different part of the car down and rebuild....just owuld like it to make it through the summer...
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I wouldn't touch their oil stabilizer. Ever seen that little gear set they have in the auto stores for it. Well if you spin it fast enough it starts adding air to the oil. If you could put a drill on it you'd really get some air in the oil. We all know how bad that is. As for their other products I can't say.
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An old trick is to put brake fluid in the tranny, supposed to make stuff swell.
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I wouldn't touch their oil stabilizer. Ever seen that little gear set they have in the auto stores for it. Well if you spin it fast enough it starts adding air to the oil. If you could put a drill on it you'd really get some air in the oil. We all know how bad that is. As for their other products I can't say.
Yeah, not a fan of the oil stabiliser here, for most smoke rattle and leak situations, those high mileage motor oils do a lot better.
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:48 AM   #14
 
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i agree on the oil stabilizer. we used to have that display at work, and i thought the same thing...hmmmm, an oil arrerator...yay!...lol

on the other two though, they are both in the car as of tonight, i siphoned out about 20 oz of tranny fluid, and added the same amount of the tranny "fix"....also siphoned the power steering empty and put the steering stuff in. bled the rack and pump, and filled it the rest of the way. drove the car and i noticed a little improvement in 1-2 and a massive improvement in 2-3....hardly slipped at all. once it warmed up it didnt get any worse either. the power steering pump makes almost no noise when the car isnt moving now, which is when it would whine before. at the moment im quite pleased with both products....but of course we'll see how long the bandaids last. and im interested to see if the tranny improves any more as the fluid mixes more. also wondering if it will still not want to 2-3 shift when i take off in the morning...time will tell, but immediate reactions are good.....
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One thing I'll add about their oil stabilizer is that a couple years ago I changed out the gear oil in the T-19 4 speed in my truck, and refilled with about 70% Lucas, & the rest regular 80-90 gear oil. My truck is a low mileage vehicle, especially for it's age, but I'll be honest.. it made a word of difference in how easy it shifts, and just the volume of the normal gear noise decreased. It almost shifts as smoothly as a new standard, and not a 20 + year old one.

Maybe it aerates... maybe it doesn't .. who knows. But I bet if you went & surveyed the local truck stop or truck repair shop you'd find a good majority of people who'd swear on the stuff.
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