16Valve TBI motor?

[itsbudda]

I'm looking at ways to speed up my 100hp daytona. Been looking, and can't find a T2 motor, so this scary thought popped into my head. Could you put a 16 valve head from a TC, or a Sprit RT on a TBI block? I know the dual cams would help the engine's breathing problems, but would it work?

[xtrempickup]

its terribly gutless, ive had my turbo not functioning on the TIII before, like when you loose a ic hose, the thing cant get out of its own way

[itsbudda]

No. MY CAR is terribly gutless. but in all seriousness, its that crappy? Well if that's the case, could I put a T3 head on a T2 motor? I cant find a T3 motor, and I want some serious horsepower in my daily driver. Long story short, I want to embarass my friend's camry.

[lotashelbys]

I second that a TIII without boost is very slow. Besides you will spend way more money that a N/A TIII would be worth. Not to mention changing the electronics and all the fun stuff thats involved with converting one. I would keep looking for a TII or even a 2.5TI. They are EVERYWHERE,how can you not find one?

[wasp]

i have a t1 up near akron. i pulled it out of a working spirit that had a really badly deteriorating body. the motor worked perfect, just needs a turbo now.

[itoktoeatfish]

It will be cheaper and easier to find a whole t2 motor than a t3 or waaaay less than tc head. I cant imagine it would perform any better than a dohc neon which is around 150 hp... sooooo $800 for t3 head plus $400 for custom intake and exhaust plus all the time for wiring and custom cal... thats atleast $24 per hp over stock you might as well buy a honda

[RPMurph]

for the cost of a 16v head and the whole conversion, you could probly buy a turbo car

[itsbudda]

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Originally Posted by lotashelbys I second that a TIII without boost is very slow. Besides you will spend way more money that a N/A TIII would be worth. Not to mention changing the electronics and all the fun stuff thats involved with converting one. I would keep looking for a TII or even a 2.5TI. They are EVERYWHERE,how can you not find one?

Cause i'm in southern ohio. All the cars here are naturally apirated

[itoktoeatfish]

southern ohio has a BIG TD secene

[itsbudda]

I've never seen any. Some Tbi omni's and Horizons, and ONE Daytona Shelby Z. And theres alot of shadows. I just cant really find any parts. Maybe im not lookin hard enough

[capev86]

the 2.5 with the TIII head would make a good performer and still run on 87 octane gas which is very attractive with fuel prices these days. it would certainly have more guts than a short stroke 2.0 16 valve neon motor. wiring and hardware wouldn't be a problem. but you'd have to rig up something custom for the fuel management (no factory cal will work on such this hybrid setup). other big hurdle would be the exhaust manifold. but it would be really awesome if it was financially feasible!

i think the best bang for the buck for a 2.5 tbi motor is switching to the mexican style mpi setup with the late T1 intake manifold. no big shakes in the hp department but atleast the engine would be allowed to run at optimal efficiency!

[Travis_k]

Or why not run a neon head? You could use the neon intake and exhaust, there are tons of them in the junkyard.

[itoktoeatfish]

some body on here is or at least was running a N/A hybrid. Said it wasnt a great performer, but I think its cuz he was basicly setup for a turbo. Raise the compression and a set of cams designed for N/A and it could make some power at least

[itsbudda]

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Originally Posted by capev86 the 2.5 with the TIII head would make a good performer and still run on 87 octane gas which is very attractive with fuel prices these days. it would certainly have more guts than a short stroke 2.0 16 valve neon motor. wiring and hardware wouldn't be a problem. but you'd have to rig up something custom for the fuel management (no factory cal will work on such this hybrid setup). other big hurdle would be the exhaust manifold. but it would be really awesome if it was financially feasible! i think the best bang for the buck for a 2.5 tbi motor is switching to the mexican style mpi setup with the late T1 intake manifold. no big shakes in the hp department but atleast the engine would be allowed to run at optimal efficiency!

I have a basic knowledge of the Chrysler K engine, but you'll need to explain to me what exactly mpi is. I'm not to tech savvy on the mexican engines.

[impuresoul2k3]

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Originally Posted by itsbudda I have a basic knowledge of the Chrysler K engine, but you'll need to explain to me what exactly mpi is. I'm not to tech savvy on the mexican engines.

MPI is not necesarily mexican, it's just multi port injection where each intake runner/port gets its own injector. The mexican N/A cars were MPI where only the turbo cars in USA were MPI