ANOTHER question (sorry) Weber Carburetor?

[Hemizach]

I heard that one of the first things that people do to the non-turbo cars is to put a Weber carb on them, what is the model of the carb? And also, where can I get one, I searched google with nothing helpful. And lastly, is it a direct bolt-on or will it need some sort of modification?

I am really beginning to annoy myself, can't imagine how you guys feel about me, lol.

[Screamin4banger]

depends on what you're talking about?

the holley on your car is a weber design licensed to holley.
you can find similiarly designed carbs licensed to motorcraft for use on fords
and you can find a 'weber' one...

or do you mean 4 side-draft webers? cause that's cool

[bansheenut420]

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Originally Posted by Hemizach I am really beginning to annoy myself, can't imagine how you guys feel about me, lol.

Were feeling that we are glad you are here. Asking questions is how we learn, so never feel like you cant ask a question here. Thats what we are here for. Now, I just wish I could help you with your question. lol

[Hemizach]

I'm actually trying to figure out what I mean myself, all somone mentioned was a carb swap, GRRRRR

[nate@truetech]

uhh how would one tune that in the pic??

is that a turbo motor converted to N/A??

[The Pope]

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Originally Posted by Hemizach I heard that one of the first things that people do to the non-turbo cars is to put a Weber carb on them, what is the model of the carb? And also, where can I get one, I searched google with nothing helpful. And lastly, is it a direct bolt-on or will it need some sort of modification? I am really beginning to annoy myself, can't imagine how you guys feel about me, lol.

the best is the Weber K453 kit and it requires some throttle bracket work.

Running a ported head, header and a cam? Then get a 350 CFM Demon 2 barrel.

I added one to T1turbo's 87 Horizon and helped him with the car. It is like a 40 HP shot of nitrous on most with a POS Holley.

[Hemizach]

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Originally Posted by The Pope the best is the Weber K453 kit and it requires some throttle bracket work. Running a ported head, header and a cam? Then get a 350 CFM Demon 2 barrel. I added one to T1turbo's 87 Horizon and helped him with the car. It is like a 40 HP shot of nitrous on most with a POS Holley.

And now I am going to make myself look like a dumbass.... Are there 2 barrel carbs that actually fit on my rampage? I mean, are there any that will bolt right on? Does the demon?

Sorry for all of the friggen questions guys...

[Sittn86]

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Originally Posted by bansheenut420 Were feeling that we are glad you are here. Asking questions is how we learn, so never feel like you cant ask a question here. Thats what we are here for. Now, I just wish I could help you with your question. lol

+1

[22dodge]

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Originally Posted by sittn86 +1

So why post if you have nothing to add?

Hemizach, to answer your question, you need to provide as much information as possible. What kind of car (rampage), How you plan on using? Amount of $ you can afford to put into the project? And some background on your abilities would help too.

The Weber DGV series carb works great up to 200hp. It is very streetable and tunable. This carb bolts right onto the stock carb intake, however some fabrication is needed. You'll need to open up the holes in the intake spacer because the Weber carb butterflies are reversed from the stock carb (I mean the 32mm and 36mm bores are opposite position). The other fabrication will be you need to make an arm for the carb linkage to attach to the stock cable. You'll also need to get a Weber air cleaner. There are MANY shops that sell Weber carbs and parts. Red Line, The Carb Shop, Pegasus are some companies that I buy Weber parts from. Infact I just bought an adapter plate to bolt a weber carb to a Mitsubishi 2.6 in my Dodge Raider. (Minuki carbs suck to say the least)

[superprobie]

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Originally Posted by 22dodge So why post if you have nothing to add? Hemizach, to answer your question, you need to provide as much information as possible. What kind of car (rampage), How you plan on using? Amount of $ you can afford to put into the project? And some background on your abilities would help too. The Weber DGV series carb works great up to 200hp. It is very streetable and tunable. This carb bolts right onto the stock carb intake, however some fabrication is needed. You'll need to open up the holes in the intake spacer because the Weber carb butterflies are reversed from the stock carb (I mean the 32mm and 36mm bores are opposite position). The other fabrication will be you need to make an arm for the carb linkage to attach to the stock cable. You'll also need to get a Weber air cleaner. There are MANY shops that sell Weber carbs and parts. Red Line, The Carb Shop, Pegasus are some companies that I buy Weber parts from. Infact I just bought an adapter plate to bolt a weber carb to a Mitsubishi 2.6 in my Dodge Raider. (Minuki carbs suck to say the least)

I have an 87 Raider with the 2.6 Mits in it as well. I bought it with a blown engine. I have rebuilt the engine but I feel that it is rather gutless. I top out at 55 MPH downhill WOT. At the slightest incline, it falls on its face. I can only assume that it is all stock on the rig. I bored it at .020 over and replaced with standard componets otherwise. I received my Weber carb in the mail yesterday and plan on putting it on within the next few weeks. If you have any pointers I would greatly appreciate it. I will be replacing the fuel pump during this as well.

One other question I have:

My check EGR light stays on all the time. Is there a way to remove all emissions without screwing everything else up? I have already removed the converter from the exhaust. I also have an additional engine that I will build fairly tough, it is a slow project.

This will be my first 2.6 build. I mainly have messed with Chevy 350, 454, and 540's, old school. This is a toy but would like it to run right.

[92TurboTona]

the weber you speak of is weber 32/36 D series carb, as those are a direct bolt in but require throttle bracket modification which you just use your stock holley bracket

[superprobie]

With all the anticipation I decided to tackle the Weber carb swap. I started by removing all the vacuum lines. Then I pulled the old carb off. This was the easy part. Then I began to figure out how to put the new one on. I noticed one of the adapter plates has a bracket molded into it. I decided this was the bottom bracket. After placing it on the intake and putting the other plate on, I mounted the new carb. I HAVE NOT put an inline electric fuel pump on at this point. I used the return fuel hose and placed it on the factory fuel pump where I believe a return line would go from the factory carb. I hooked up the fuel in line to the Weber and ran a vacuum line from the carb to the distrubtor. This was my first question. My distributor had two vacuum lines on it. For the time being I have placed a "T" in the line and hooked them both to the carb. Is this the normal method??





Now the next thing that happened was I placed the bottom bracket on wrong. It would appear that the factory carb has a water jacket that runs through it, where the weber does not. I had to take it all off and rotate the place 180 degrees. This blocked the water jacket in the intake of. I noticed this after I had the Weber carb on and Ol Faithful was running. It started pouring water out between the intake and the bottom plate. I have attached a picture of it but it is hard to make out. I will attempt to get more.



One other thing. I have yet to install the electric fuel pump but would using my factory fuel pump cause this to run real rich or could that be from the distributor vacuum lines. I have attempted to adjust the carb several times according to the paperwork but it is real rich. Burns the ol' eyes real quick.

I hope this post will help someone out greatly and I also hope to get some help in return. I will post more this weekend (Jan 2013) with some pics of what I removed and disconnected.

Thanks and Your Welcome, in advance.

[92TurboTona]

how far did you jump up in jetting as i would only recommend going in increments of 5 as they can easily throw everything off even with 2 jet sizes

[superprobie]

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Originally Posted by 92TurboTona how far did you jump up in jetting as i would only recommend going in increments of 5 as they can easily throw everything off even with 2 jet sizes

Not real sure what you mean. I did nothing with the jets. I just bolted it on.

[92TurboTona]

Okay just making sure to see if you changed jetting, been awhile since I had a 2.6 in my conquest but that was fuel injected