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Old 09-22-2008, 03:17 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I was just curious about something. I just bought an '89 T1 Lebaron. I immediately converted it to an intercooled setup and turned the boost up to ~13. It has low miles, and runs excellently, though it seems to have awesome low-end power, and feels like it runs out of steam almost immediately after it hits full boost. As in, I can brake boost, and take off like a bat-out-of-hell, then after I finally gain traction and start accelerating, I feel like all that horsepower has dissipated and it feels nearly stock. I've had 4 T1 cars with this setup, and they all display the same type of behavior. Am I just getting as much flow out of the factory mitsu as I can with the amount of fuel provided? Is this the way all cranked-up T1's act? My only advantage over people is off-the-line takeoffs, and highway boost roll-on's.

That's another thing, the car feels faster if I give it a part-throttle boost situation and let it pull, rather than flooring it and letting it downshift. Then it just sucks. I assume it's because of the longer gear ratio vs. torque scenario when it doesnt downshift. All my auto T1's have done this as well!

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Old 09-22-2008, 04:25 PM   #2
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Garret or Mitsu turbo?
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Old 09-22-2008, 04:28 PM   #3
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Am I just getting as much flow out of the factory mitsu as I can with the amount of fuel provided?


you could try retarding the cam 2-4 degrees which will move the powerband up in the rpms

but most likely its the mitsu (and stock exhaust too?) choking that 2.5 up
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Old 09-22-2008, 04:30 PM   #4
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slap on a garret it wont spool up as fast but you will get more high end power
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:23 PM   #5
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yeah, that's what I was thinking. I hacked off the exhaust for the hell of it today (open header), and the car feels even slower. Maybe there's just a bigger noise/speed ratio lol Anyone else ever experience this though on a bone-stock T1 with higher boost? Does the Mitsu really hinder it THAT much?
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:39 PM   #6
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Yea I had the shadow up at the strip the other night and its quick to the 1/8th but after that its just wheezin along with that tiny turbo. My best MPH of the night was 88.54 in the 1/4 and 70.42 in the 1/8th on the same pass.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:53 PM   #7
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Hey I was thinking of adding an intercooler to my 86 laser. got any pics of the set up?
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:18 AM   #8
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Hey I was thinking of adding an intercooler to my 86 laser. got any pics of the set up?
Are you talking to me? It looks just like a factory TII car, but with a silver intake manifold and V/C.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:53 AM   #9
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Oh ok. And hey get rid of the mitsu
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Old 09-23-2008, 06:47 AM   #10
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IMHO try a computer thats actually tuned for what you changed on the car.
I know the mitsu is not the best, however power can be found with a proper tune now that your intercooled and running open pipe. You might be surprised what a difference it makes.
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