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Old 04-10-2013, 04:36 PM   #1
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Ok I really couldnt find anyother place to post this so i figured here would be the most sense... So I purchased a 1986 Chrysler Laser XE Turbo about a month ago, 55K original miles (mostly garage kept) I paid $2,200 for the car. Few questions I have are, 1) Roughly how much horsepower does it put out stock? 2.2L T (i belive its a T1, correct me if I am wrong) 2) how much boost can I push through the motor without having to change internal parts (pistons and so on.) and what aftermarket turbo, wastegate or blow off valve, boost controler (electronic or mehcanical), and intercooler would you suggest 3) And finally are parts from the same year Daytonas interchangeable with my Laser?

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Welcome to the forum. Nice car.

1.) The 86 turbo 1 is rated at 146 horsepower and 170 foot pounds of torque.

2.) It really depends on how much money you are willing to spend on it. The rods are really the only internal "weak" point and even they can handle a lot of power if there isn't much detonation. Most people swap the intake manifold for the later long branch style, which are much less restrictive. It has the turbo situated upstream from the throttle body. If you're looking for a milder build, you can stick with what you have. Up the boost with an fwdperformance computer, open the exhaust, etc.

3.) Yes, virtually every part on that car is interchangeable with a Daytona. Only real differences were the ground effects and probably the springs and struts I'd imagine, for a softer ride.

Also one thing someone could chime in on is the early a413 transaxle you have. Its a small spline, and the differential isn't as strong and I've read the torque converters around the pump shaft, but not too sure about how they perform overall.
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Ok cool, thank you... Yea I was gonna guess the rods were gonna be the weak point, due to it being a factory turbo id assume they would use dished pistons, do you know if any one knows were exactly the most ammount of boost before shit hits the fan? or at least the recomended ammout is? also, factory wise what does it produce for boost, i was assuming about 5lb, considering thats were most stock manufacture sit at.
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with any factory TD ECM,
you can't boost past ~14 psi before the ECM shuts you down;
if you bypass that, the ECM won't be adding any fuel past 14 psi = lean = melt stuff

with the '84-7 TI "log" intake / TB arrangement,
12-13 psi would be a good goal..
noticeable extra power,
no engine, electrical,or fuel issues...

"stock" computer will allow 9 psi for up to 10 seconds, then back to 7 psi ..
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Factory boost is 7 psi, that allows for 9 psi overboost, for like ten seconds or so.

Yes the pistons are dished to lower compression to 8.1:1.

From what I've asked and heard, the most I hear for a car with lw rods, is 250ish hp. That said, I don't know how easy that'd be on a log manifold car, like yours.

Also I saw you asked about an intercooler, it may not be worth your trouble to get an intercooler for that car unless you swap to a later style manifold. Reason being is you'd have to do some really heavy modifying on that manifold, because if you look, the turbo is beyond the throttle body, and attached straight onto the intake manifold. It would probably be easier just to do a tII swap. If you get a hold of a TII engine, you'll already have strong rods and forged crank to boot. With the factory motor, you may not want to do much if you want a reliable engine.
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ah ok, its my daily driver so i dont wanna tear it up, i might do a TII swap later on after I get a second car, thanks again
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like most factory turbo cars,
a free-er flowing exhaust system is the best 'bang-for-the-buck...

and is usually the first 'mod'.

I would try to find a '89-93 2.5" downpipe,
then a sympathetic shop to install that along with a new 2.5" system ..
that will add power across the whole RPM range,
and allow the turbo to spool up quicker..
even improve fuel economy a smidge.

consider cat &/or muffler delete if you want a little extra Hp and a lot more sound.
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like most factory turbo cars,
a free-er flowing exhaust system is the best 'bang-for-the-buck...

and is usually the first 'mod'.

I would try to find a '89-93 2.5" downpipe,
then a sympathetic shop to install that along with a new 2.5" system ..
that will add power across the whole RPM range,
and allow the turbo to spool up quicker..
even improve fuel economy a smidge.

consider cat &/or muffler delete if you want a little extra Hp and a lot more sound.
+1 on this as I did cat delete on my omni and it goes a little quicker and sound 10 times better but don't do the cat delete if you live were emission testing is big
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Ill give that a shot. Once I get some money ill get the down pipe and drop the cat, might just do a full exhaust if I can find it. And in my State my car is exempt from emissions because of its low miliage for its age
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don't bother unless yur doing the full exhaust ;)
the 'over-axle' crimp is the main bottleneck...

the mandrel bent system(s) from fwdperformance are nice...
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don't bother unless yur doing the full exhaust ;)
the 'over-axle' crimp is the main bottleneck...

the mandrel bent system(s) from fwdperformance are nice...
I plan on full exhaust. Can you hook me up with some links on good recomended kits and or parts
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