Very strange turbo exhaust manifold

[boosted_baron]

the regular one looks a lot different.. yours even looks different from the one i modified on my 85, id say t3? it is chrysler right?

[tryingbe]

Better question is, what are you going to do with it?

[87dtna]

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Originally Posted by boosted_baron the regular one looks a lot different.. yours even looks different from the one i modified on my 85, id say t3? it is chrysler right?

It's a regular 8v manifold with a standard T3 flange on it offset more to the drivers side, you can tell that just from the pic.

[4 L-bodies]

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Originally Posted by howard How about this "what if"? Wasn't the Indy Pace car an 87 Lebaron? I thought they used some special parts on that car - Intercooler and 0.63 A/R turbine housing for sure. Well then maybe tooling wasn't available for the unique Dodge style turbine housing soon enough - or they just wanted to try out a 0.63 A/R first so they used a standard T-3 (off of a ford probably, since it was already on manual trans T-birds). So it's possible, they just used the entire Ford turbo, so then it wouldn't have that Dodge unique compressor housing angle, so they needed to move the turbo over enough to clear the head? Sounds good anyway - that's my story and I'm sticking to it....until a better one comes around. Howard

Howard,
I remember reading an article in the 2.2 FWD speed secrets on the 87 Pace car that they had planned on using the infamous tubular header but decided against it because of potential durability reasons. They stated that the obvious horsepower increase didn't justify the potential for mechanical breakage. Be pretty embarrassing if the Pace car broke down.
The car reportedly did use a TII motor, larger turbo exhaust housing and bigger compressor wheel, a retarded slider camshaft, different intercooler, big valve cylinder head, 52mm T/B, larger injectors, and exhaust work. Motor put out 236 HP and reached 151 MPH with top up, and 141 with top down on 12-14 PSI of boost!
I still don't think a prototype would have any part # or have a listing in any parts book. The info you have stating it's a 96 model year part, is nowhere near the 87 Pace car time era. It's like ten years off! That screams Mexican application to me. The US production of turbo 2.2/2.5 was already over in the US at that time.

[1983Rampage]

Could it be one from overseas. I think it is China that uses the 2.2 still. They got rights from Chrysler to build it and use it. If that were the case, in 95 they would still be making the engines and still possibly using the 8v heads. That would also give a reason to use something other than the Chrysler turbo flange since it would in theory not be a Chrysler car but would have the 2.2 block and head.

[moparfwdsleeper]

TurboDodge.Com - Turbo Dodge forum for Turbo Mopars, Shelbys, Daytona, SRT-4, PT Cruiser, Omni and more! - Turbo Inlet Flanges w. Diagrams anyone look in here to get atleast the turbo flange correct?

[Reaper1]

The Chinese weren't using the turbo application of the engine AFAIK. They were using it in small cars and machinery in an N/A form. I'm still sticking with my Mexican theory.

I don't think Mexican part numbers work in the U.S parts system.

[moparfwdsleeper]

I dug this up... Volvo turbo of course. It was the only only I could find with the circle/square design...

[howard]

Wow, that definitely looks like a winning shot. Anyone know what A/R's the volvo turbos had? I can't see them making a special manifold to just attach a volvo turbo if there is nothing to gain.
Howard

[87dtna]

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Originally Posted by howard Wow, that definitely looks like a winning shot. Anyone know what A/R's the volvo turbos had? I can't see them making a special manifold to just attach a volvo turbo if there is nothing to gain. Howard

Same specs as a stock T2 turbo. Like I said someone probably just had it with a volvo turbo on it, chrysler wouldn't have used a volvo turbo originally.
It might have been one of chrysler's first attempts of making a blow-through style. Obviously they scrapped the idea.

[Raymont]

Some volvos (mine was an 86' and it had it) Came with .63 exhausts stock

[87dtna]

Interesting, I've never seen one with a .63 before. Good to know.

[tryingbe]

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Originally Posted by 87dtna Same specs as a stock T2 turbo.

Not really, not all volvo turbo are the same. RWD Volvo used MANY different turbos. Some Garrett T25, T3 type and some Mitsubishi.

[87dtna]

My bad, I did assume he knew to make sure it was a garrett first of all....I did not know they used T25's though. What years did they use the T25? I was talking the 80's and early 90's volvo's, what you find in the junk yards most often I've always seen with T3's.

[tryingbe]

940, mostly. Volvo used different turbo for the same year sometimes...