Very strange turbo exhaust manifold

[Raymont]

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Originally Posted by 87dtna Interesting, I've never seen one with a .63 before. Good to know.

Yep, if you see one in the junk yard with a oil cooled turbo, they are the ones that were .63

[4 L-bodies]

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Originally Posted by Reaper1 The Chinese weren't using the turbo application of the engine AFAIK. They were using it in small cars and machinery in an N/A form. I'm still sticking with my Mexican theory. I don't think Mexican part numbers work in the U.S parts system.

Reaper1 Your Mexican theory? HA! Good one. See post below listed before your brainstorm. Sound familier?

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Originally Posted by 4 L-bodies My best guess is that it came off some Mexican 8V car. They did some different stuff down there. It had a part # so it probably isn't a prototype. I used to live in San Antonio and would see strange K cars periodically in the salvage yards. Like automatic intercooled K cars.

[Reaper1]

Get a little touchy much? Good lord, man! FINE!!! TODD NELSON'S Mexican theory. Happy now?

[howard]

Easy guys! Todd, remember there's no cookie for the right answer. Besides, I ran it by another Chrysler guy who said he doubted very much it's a Mexican application as they would not have spent the money on new tooling for that special of an appication in Mexico only. He also confirmed that the 1st application appears to be in 1996 but for some engine code called A9. He's going to try and find out what an A9 engine is, but that's two different people saying it's a 1996 start. I doubt it very much, but could it be for a Military 2.5 Jeep or stationary engine? - strange why it's such a late year though.
Howard

[tryingbe]

Question is, is there more of this type of exhaust manifold to buy?

[Reaper1]

BTW, I was being VERY sarcastic...I forget that the net doesn't convey this very well at all....

[4 L-bodies]

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Originally Posted by howard Easy guys! Todd, remember there's no cookie for the right answer. Howard

Bad dog! no biscuit!
2.2/2.5 production was history in the US by 1996. If it is indeed a 1996 part, It didn't come in any US production vehicle. One reason there are so many turbo applications in Mexico is in part due to the high altitude. A9 huh, I'll run that by the parts mgr. at my local dealer and see if that rings a bell with anyone. That might be the biggest clue yet besides the part #.

[impuresoul2k3]

The concept behind the technologies built into the two new MIVEC engines is also common to the A9-type engine jointly developed with DaimlerChrysler in 2004. The A9 engine currently powers Mitsubishi Colt and Colt Plus and enjoys high critical acclaim both in Japan and Europe. In addition to the core elements listed below, the new engines announced today incorporate other new and proprietary technologies.

Press Release

[Reaper1]

Well, it's NOT from an A9(or World Engine). According to the release they use a double wall stainless manifold. Also, they are 4V engines...I've never seen a 4V engine use a port the same shape as our 2V engine.

One thing I've seen happen is the complete supersession of some REALLY old defunct part numbers. They completly reassign the number(kind of like some of the build codes). I wonder if that's what we might be seeing?

I also remember a long time ago seeing a 3.0 that used a square flange on the rear exahsut manifold instead of the regular douhgnut flange...it kind looked like what we are seeing here. I saw it on the back of a truck that was carrying parts to body shops. The engine was '95 or newer because it had yellow on the oil dip stick and such. They started going away from the old douhgnut flange for emissions reasons. I dunno whay they wouldn't jsut stick with the N/A manifold and use a square flange on that, but it is a possibility...